On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>> >>>> The error: >>>> >>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>> >>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>> >>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>> still needs a model as well. >> >> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >> > >Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >has to also send out GHz pulses ;-)Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz.>You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >where it loses steam.It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the installation. It can't find anything now.
LT Spice problem
Started by ●June 1, 2011
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> The error: >>>>> >>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>> >>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>> >>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>> still needs a model as well. >>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>> >> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) > > Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. > >> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >> where it loses steam. > > It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the > installation. It can't find anything now.Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? I though that wasn't possible. Might have to re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while because the LTSpice updater doesn't work. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:32:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>Robert Baer wrote: >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. >>>>> I'm >>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> The error: >>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>> >>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models >>>>> have that >>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>> still needs a model as well. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>> Model...you mean the one with the long skirt and fancy hat? >> >> >>No, no, the one with the bikini :-) > > ...and a long-tailed pair?http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/images/comptran.gif Cheers! Rich
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> The error: >>>>>> >>>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>>> >>>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>>> >>>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>>> still needs a model as well. >>>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>>> >>> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >>> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) >> >> Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. >> >>> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >>> where it loses steam. >> >> It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the >> installation. It can't find anything now. > > >Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice?Not crashed, just edited or changed something I shouldn't have, perhaps.>I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >because the LTSpice updater doesn't work.Really? It wanted to update my home copy but I didn't let it.
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> The error: >>>>>> >>>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>>> >>>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>>> >>>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>>> still needs a model as well. >>>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>>> >>> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >>> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) >> >> Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. >> >>> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >>> where it loses steam. >> >> It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the >> installation. It can't find anything now. > > >Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >because the LTSpice updater doesn't work.Not surprising. When it comes to software you have a black thumb. I can't remember when I first installed LTspice. The Updater always works. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The error: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>>>> still needs a model as well. >>>>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>>>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>>>> >>>> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >>>> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) >>> Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. >>> >>>> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >>>> where it loses steam. >>> It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the >>> installation. It can't find anything now. >> >> Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? > > Not crashed, just edited or changed something I shouldn't have, perhaps. >Unless you literally mucked with files in the LTSpice install directory it's nearly impossible to break.>> I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >> re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >> because the LTSpice updater doesn't work. > > Really? It wanted to update my home copy but I didn't let it.It always freezes up for me but it might be related to security settings. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
Jim Thompson wrote:> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The error: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>>>> still needs a model as well. >>>>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>>>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>>>> >>>> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >>>> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) >>> Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. >>> >>>> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >>>> where it loses steam. >>> It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the >>> installation. It can't find anything now. >> >> Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >> re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >> because the LTSpice updater doesn't work. > > Not surprising. When it comes to software you have a black thumb. > > I can't remember when I first installed LTspice. The Updater always > works. >Probably related to security settings. But it doesn't matter, this software is literally bug-free (unlike others ...) and I only need to update if a new must-have feature appear. Then it's rather quick and easy. Uninstall, re-install .. get coffee .. hop back into seat. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Reply by ●June 2, 20112011-06-02
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:42:57 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The error: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>>>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>>>>> still needs a model as well. >>>>>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>>>>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>>>>> >>>>> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >>>>> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) >>>> Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. >>>> >>>>> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >>>>> where it loses steam. >>>> It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the >>>> installation. It can't find anything now. >>> >>> Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >>> re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >>> because the LTSpice updater doesn't work. >> >> Not surprising. When it comes to software you have a black thumb. >> >> I can't remember when I first installed LTspice. The Updater always >> works. >> > >Probably related to security settings. But it doesn't matter, this >software is literally bug-free (unlike others ...) and I only need to >update if a new must-have feature appear. Then it's rather quick and >easy. Uninstall, re-install .. get coffee .. hop back into seat.I don't run a firewall... that's what a good router is for. Go to http://www.grc.com and run Shields Up and see what you get. I get a 100% Stealth Rating. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●June 3, 20112011-06-03
Jim Thompson wrote:> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:42:57 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:56:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'm trying to add the models of a couple of N-FETs I use to LTSpice. I'm >>>>>>>>> getting a simulation-time error that I can't resolve. Any ideas? Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The error: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> |M1: Only a level 9 B3SOI can have 6 nodes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It thinks I have six terminals on my transistor and only SOI models have that >>>>>>>>> many? Looks like only three to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't have your symbol so can't run the subcircuit. But when I use >>>>>>>> just your NMOS model it runs. You have to give V1 a voltage and the LED >>>>>>>> still needs a model as well. >>>>>>> It seemed to do something here at home. I didn't have time to look at it >>>>>>> today. Maybe tomorrow they'll leave me alone so I can get back after it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Just use the model alone. Package parasitics don't matter unless the LED >>>>>> has to also send out GHz pulses ;-) >>>>> Well it is in a GHz field, but I don't think I care about buzz. >>>>> >>>>>> You can enter a ramp for the voltage source, then you can always see >>>>>> where it loses steam. >>>>> It's not getting that far. I must have something messed up with the >>>>> installation. It can't find anything now. >>>> Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >>>> re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >>>> because the LTSpice updater doesn't work. >>> Not surprising. When it comes to software you have a black thumb. >>> >>> I can't remember when I first installed LTspice. The Updater always >>> works. >>> >> Probably related to security settings. But it doesn't matter, this >> software is literally bug-free (unlike others ...) and I only need to >> update if a new must-have feature appear. Then it's rather quick and >> easy. Uninstall, re-install .. get coffee .. hop back into seat. > > I don't run a firewall... that's what a good router is for. > > Go to http://www.grc.com and run Shields Up and see what you get. I > get a 100% Stealth Rating. >Thanks, but I don't want to re-install half of my computer stuff here. I get no viruses or any of that and if this is why the LTSpice updater doesn't work it's ok. As I said, install by hand is painless. It is so fast that I don't even have time to snatch a cookie out of the fridge (although I'd like to). -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Reply by ●June 3, 20112011-06-03
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:40:17 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:42:57 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 17:42:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>>[snip]>>>>> Oh-oh, you crashed LTSpice? I though that wasn't possible. Might have to >>>>> re-install, it is fairly painless. I have to do that once in a while >>>>> because the LTSpice updater doesn't work. >>>> Not surprising. When it comes to software you have a black thumb. >>>> >>>> I can't remember when I first installed LTspice. The Updater always >>>> works. >>>> >>> Probably related to security settings. But it doesn't matter, this >>> software is literally bug-free (unlike others ...) and I only need to >>> update if a new must-have feature appear. Then it's rather quick and >>> easy. Uninstall, re-install .. get coffee .. hop back into seat. >> >> I don't run a firewall... that's what a good router is for. >> >> Go to http://www.grc.com and run Shields Up and see what you get. I >> get a 100% Stealth Rating. >> > >Thanks, but I don't want to re-install half of my computer stuff here. I >get no viruses or any of that and if this is why the LTSpice updater >doesn't work it's ok. As I said, install by hand is painless. It is so >fast that I don't even have time to snatch a cookie out of the fridge >(although I'd like to).Did you run Shields Up? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
