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Solder these 2 wires while being able to slip the shrink tubing over the soldered connection

Started by AK June 23, 2020
I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.

Thanks.


https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294
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AK wrote:
> > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint. 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't start to shrink. 2. splice the wires 3. solder 4. center heat-shrink over splice [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3asj+xn6fYUcweBnbWVw5UznKGAFAl7yrGAACgkQbWVw5Uzn KGCvHBAAkTdDAUnbL0VQYKMTIPhjgzO6W1CHcw5R6+EoSonZif2MLztqh+7IalWk 66tNQCVigq5/TW5ILuazOM3Lwu5faLSoQ23/ML0WYSHNPkHTW9teDLc4aVnRvFR8 plw5WU/GvtgyVqlDzDXWOAtahC/+f/bN6pkCaDjfY7ygYO8lfF5b2Ky8zxcZwRwk qxWUEvqWb4Oio15R48I6QVuzDcRyZ/zEYQQ32/j9JJzrm8SGPEzqDkhmblCKcKdd Ur+TRQ8XqSvE0VJ4kfb6eTrlT3I3+oRnb7G0aCui/Z2Ndc6KIfoP7av5YJaNvWug gMBQaoYb5lXV2EFQI0Ke14dHQAMKlO6WqL8kZDuUXoIWPzpXI/xwk5LtVTGZfs9E QZZJ+lxKVmpNnAjwLJ/ynVJPzjaA4YADojthWv4FSBp53VKouyatdFBcy/ksEg/w F/xquPBMF3H+Mb4h6RAnGxL+zaurjcHdVlvHNsTJKqngGdefnUDho1RB801/OTQ+ 76oHWzafkphq8zFi3UeDX44be+U6Kqeda4RnZYPE3L9bs4TpVl4qdHJRzNn9Td+y P4XRr9goDJlrzNLhPh3GIBWWdpD3bNLPzZy3Jdptje3ZUHQZN4h2mF9f+vTEyKsq w1kAp8lvwWXi9wClApHvSwhA5Mnw7msQfd1Op49yk7OSKnD0rIg= =a7xQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |_|_|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860 |O|O|O| Former PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > AK wrote: > > > > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip > > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection. > > Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then > once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint. > > > 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't > start to shrink. > 2. splice the wires > 3. solder > 4. center heat-shrink over splice > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3asj+xn6fYUcweBnbWVw5UznKGAFAl7yrGAACgkQbWVw5Uzn > KGCvHBAAkTdDAUnbL0VQYKMTIPhjgzO6W1CHcw5R6+EoSonZif2MLztqh+7IalWk > 66tNQCVigq5/TW5ILuazOM3Lwu5faLSoQ23/ML0WYSHNPkHTW9teDLc4aVnRvFR8 > plw5WU/GvtgyVqlDzDXWOAtahC/+f/bN6pkCaDjfY7ygYO8lfF5b2Ky8zxcZwRwk > qxWUEvqWb4Oio15R48I6QVuzDcRyZ/zEYQQ32/j9JJzrm8SGPEzqDkhmblCKcKdd > Ur+TRQ8XqSvE0VJ4kfb6eTrlT3I3+oRnb7G0aCui/Z2Ndc6KIfoP7av5YJaNvWug > gMBQaoYb5lXV2EFQI0Ke14dHQAMKlO6WqL8kZDuUXoIWPzpXI/xwk5LtVTGZfs9E > QZZJ+lxKVmpNnAjwLJ/ynVJPzjaA4YADojthWv4FSBp53VKouyatdFBcy/ksEg/w > F/xquPBMF3H+Mb4h6RAnGxL+zaurjcHdVlvHNsTJKqngGdefnUDho1RB801/OTQ+ > 76oHWzafkphq8zFi3UeDX44be+U6Kqeda4RnZYPE3L9bs4TpVl4qdHJRzNn9Td+y > P4XRr9goDJlrzNLhPh3GIBWWdpD3bNLPzZy3Jdptje3ZUHQZN4h2mF9f+vTEyKsq > w1kAp8lvwWXi9wClApHvSwhA5Mnw7msQfd1Op49yk7OSKnD0rIg= > =a7xQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > |_|O|_| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert > |_|_|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860 > |O|O|O| Former PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
Thanks. Lineman splice looks pretty neat. Does it work with stranded wire as well? Andy
On 2020-06-24, AK <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> AK wrote: >> > >> > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip >> > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection. >> >> Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then >> once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint. >> >> >> 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't >> start to shrink. >> 2. splice the wires >> 3. solder >> 4. center heat-shrink over splice >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice
> Thanks. > > Lineman splice looks pretty neat. > > Does it work with stranded wire as well?
It does in cases where the the wire isulation is too thin to hide the bulge caused by the splice I just overlap the wires and bind them together with a fine wire before soldering. In the photo I see the green heatsink on the black wire it should probably be pushed further away from the join before soldering, but as the black wire is fatter than the white (clear?) wire the heatshrink will probably still be usable if it does start to shrink. -- Jasen.
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Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2020-06-24, AK <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> AK wrote: >>> > >>> > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip >>> > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection. >>> >>> Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then >>> once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint. >>> >>> >>> 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't >>> start to shrink. >>> 2. splice the wires >>> 3. solder >>> 4. center heat-shrink over splice >>> >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice > >> Thanks. >> >> Lineman splice looks pretty neat. >> >> Does it work with stranded wire as well? > > It does
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT), AK
<scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:

> >I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip >the shrink tubing over the soldered connection. > >Thanks. > > >https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294
I like to offset the wires (one pair with a long and short mated to a long/short) to keep the size of the lump minimal, and any insulation wear points (lumps) from being adjacent. Another thing I've found very handy is a pair of alligator clips mounted in a small block of wood so that they can grip the wires in alignment when I solder (no twisting or lineman's splice). The clips face up with 2" between and some heat shrink over the teeth to keep from puncturing the insulation. Lineman's splice is good if you are hanging telegraph lines or fixing a horse corral. That and a clothesline are the only times it really shines. Another trick for the linesman's splice, with heavy wire especially, is a slightly oversize hole in a scrap of sheet steel near one corner. You run the end through the hole and it makes it easy to lay down a nice tight cork-screw around the standing part of the line.
On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 6:06:28 AM UTC-5, default wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT), AK > <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip > >the shrink tubing over the soldered connection. > > > >Thanks. > > > > > >https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294 > > I like to offset the wires (one pair with a long and short mated to a > long/short) to keep the size of the lump minimal, and any insulation > wear points (lumps) from being adjacent. > > Another thing I've found very handy is a pair of alligator clips > mounted in a small block of wood so that they can grip the wires in > alignment when I solder (no twisting or lineman's splice). The clips > face up with 2" between and some heat shrink over the teeth to keep > from puncturing the insulation. > > Lineman's splice is good if you are hanging telegraph lines or fixing > a horse corral. That and a clothesline are the only times it really > shines. > > Another trick for the linesman's splice, with heavy wire especially, > is a slightly oversize hole in a scrap of sheet steel near one corner. > You run the end through the hole and it makes it easy to lay down a > nice tight cork-screw around the standing part of the line.
Thanks gentlemen for all your help. Andy
On 25/06/2020 11:05 pm, default wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT), AK > <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip >> the shrink tubing over the soldered connection. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294 > > I like to offset the wires (one pair with a long and short mated to a > long/short) to keep the size of the lump minimal, and any insulation > wear points (lumps) from being adjacent. > > Another thing I've found very handy is a pair of alligator clips > mounted in a small block of wood so that they can grip the wires in > alignment when I solder (no twisting or lineman's splice). The clips > face up with 2" between and some heat shrink over the teeth to keep > from puncturing the insulation. > > Lineman's splice is good if you are hanging telegraph lines or fixing > a horse corral. That and a clothesline are the only times it really > shines. > > Another trick for the linesman's splice, with heavy wire especially, > is a slightly oversize hole in a scrap of sheet steel near one corner. > You run the end through the hole and it makes it easy to lay down a > nice tight cork-screw around the standing part of the line.
I've done that with fencing wire and the hanging hole in the end of a adjustable wrench handle. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM" David Melville This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.