> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT), AK
> <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
>> the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294
>
> I like to offset the wires (one pair with a long and short mated to a
> long/short) to keep the size of the lump minimal, and any insulation
> wear points (lumps) from being adjacent.
>
> Another thing I've found very handy is a pair of alligator clips
> mounted in a small block of wood so that they can grip the wires in
> alignment when I solder (no twisting or lineman's splice). The clips
> face up with 2" between and some heat shrink over the teeth to keep
> from puncturing the insulation.
>
> Lineman's splice is good if you are hanging telegraph lines or fixing
> a horse corral. That and a clothesline are the only times it really
> shines.
>
> Another trick for the linesman's splice, with heavy wire especially,
> is a slightly oversize hole in a scrap of sheet steel near one corner.
> You run the end through the hole and it makes it easy to lay down a
> nice tight cork-screw around the standing part of the line.
I've done that with fencing wire and the hanging hole in the end of a adjustable wrench handle.
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Reply by AK●June 30, 20202020-06-30
On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 6:06:28 AM UTC-5, default wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT), AK
> <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
> >the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294
>
> I like to offset the wires (one pair with a long and short mated to a
> long/short) to keep the size of the lump minimal, and any insulation
> wear points (lumps) from being adjacent.
>
> Another thing I've found very handy is a pair of alligator clips
> mounted in a small block of wood so that they can grip the wires in
> alignment when I solder (no twisting or lineman's splice). The clips
> face up with 2" between and some heat shrink over the teeth to keep
> from puncturing the insulation.
>
> Lineman's splice is good if you are hanging telegraph lines or fixing
> a horse corral. That and a clothesline are the only times it really
> shines.
>
> Another trick for the linesman's splice, with heavy wire especially,
> is a slightly oversize hole in a scrap of sheet steel near one corner.
> You run the end through the hole and it makes it easy to lay down a
> nice tight cork-screw around the standing part of the line.
Thanks gentlemen for all your help.
Andy
Reply by default●June 25, 20202020-06-25
On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT), AK
<scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
>the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294
I like to offset the wires (one pair with a long and short mated to a
long/short) to keep the size of the lump minimal, and any insulation
wear points (lumps) from being adjacent.
Another thing I've found very handy is a pair of alligator clips
mounted in a small block of wood so that they can grip the wires in
alignment when I solder (no twisting or lineman's splice). The clips
face up with 2" between and some heat shrink over the teeth to keep
from puncturing the insulation.
Lineman's splice is good if you are hanging telegraph lines or fixing
a horse corral. That and a clothesline are the only times it really
shines.
Another trick for the linesman's splice, with heavy wire especially,
is a slightly oversize hole in a scrap of sheet steel near one corner.
You run the end through the hole and it makes it easy to lay down a
nice tight cork-screw around the standing part of the line.
Reply by Dan Purgert●June 24, 20202020-06-24
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Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2020-06-24, AK <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote:
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>>> AK wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
>>> > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
>>>
>>> Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then
>>> once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't
>>> start to shrink.
>>> 2. splice the wires
>>> 3. solder
>>> 4. center heat-shrink over splice
>>>
>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Lineman splice looks pretty neat.
>>
>> Does it work with stranded wire as well?
>
> It does
I have found that on occasion, tinning the wires helps considerably, as
the tinned ends act as solid-core wire while wrapping them around each
other.
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Reply by Jasen Betts●June 24, 20202020-06-24
On 2020-06-24, AK <scientist77017@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote:
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>> AK wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
>> > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
>>
>> Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then
>> once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint.
>>
>>
>> 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't
>> start to shrink.
>> 2. splice the wires
>> 3. solder
>> 4. center heat-shrink over splice
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice
> Thanks.
>
> Lineman splice looks pretty neat.
>
> Does it work with stranded wire as well?
It does
in cases where the the wire isulation is too thin to hide the bulge
caused by the splice I just overlap the wires and bind them together
with a fine wire before soldering.
In the photo I see the green heatsink on the black wire it should
probably be pushed further away from the join before soldering,
but as the black wire is fatter than the white (clear?) wire the
heatshrink will probably still be usable if it does start to shrink.
--
Jasen.
Reply by AK●June 24, 20202020-06-24
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:29:08 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote:
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> AK wrote:
> >
> > I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
> > the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
>
> Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then
> once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint.
>
>
> 1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't
> start to shrink.
> 2. splice the wires
> 3. solder
> 4. center heat-shrink over splice
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice
>
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Thanks.
Lineman splice looks pretty neat.
Does it work with stranded wire as well?
Andy
Reply by Dan Purgert●June 23, 20202020-06-23
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AK wrote:
>
> I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
> the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
Looks like you'll be needing a lineman's splice[1] for the two wires, then
once soldered, just slide the shrink tube over the joint.
1. heat-shrink tube on white or black wire, far enough away it won't
start to shrink.
2. splice the wires
3. solder
4. center heat-shrink over splice
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_union_splice
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Reply by AK●June 23, 20202020-06-23
I would like to learn how to solder these 2 wires while being able to slip
the shrink tubing over the soldered connection.
Thanks.
https://imgur.com/a/9z3z294