On 10/6/2016 2:35 AM, Andy wrote:> The second part of youre post Phil was not mine i was replying to the > original poster > my post ends after the talk about channel bonding. > when you see the same hear that is the other posters reply to mine:)Dude! When you top post, you have no justification for complaining how quotes of your messages show up. I can't believe you have made so many posts here and no one has pointed that out to you... -- Rick C
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On 10/08/2016 02:26 AM, Robert Baer wrote: [snip]>>> Actual cost is always about double the ad rates. >> >> No. > Dew tell; give *one* verifiable example. > > EVERY ad i have seen: throw-away fliers (Comcast,Dish) in mailbox, ads > from provider (Comcast in my case), newspaper blow-in ads, etc wave > banners about "ONLY" blah blah and 6 point multi-liner that talks about > (BUT NO QUOTES) taxes, fees, installation, etc. > Give us an example where the rate quoted is correct (or even in the > ballpark). >"double" may be an exaggeration. Maybe not. Anyway, the actual cost can be a lot higher. Once I had phone service that had everything (local service, unlimited long distance, caller ID, call waiting, etc...), advertised price "ONLY" $39.95. The actual billed amount was above $55 (essentially, $39.95 was a lie). -- 78 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ In Ottawa the xians put up an "abortion stills a beating heart" poster outside the local abortion clinic. Someone wrote over it: "A christian with a gun stills a beating heart."
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 13:07:56 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote:>On 10/08/2016 02:26 AM, Robert Baer wrote: > >[snip] > >>>> Actual cost is always about double the ad rates. >>> >>> No. >> Dew tell; give *one* verifiable example. >> >> EVERY ad i have seen: throw-away fliers (Comcast,Dish) in mailbox, ads >> from provider (Comcast in my case), newspaper blow-in ads, etc wave >> banners about "ONLY" blah blah and 6 point multi-liner that talks about >> (BUT NO QUOTES) taxes, fees, installation, etc. >> Give us an example where the rate quoted is correct (or even in the >> ballpark).You made the claim. Back it up!>> > >"double" may be an exaggeration. Maybe not. Anyway, the actual cost can >be a lot higher.A big exaggeration.>Once I had phone service that had everything (local service, unlimited >long distance, caller ID, call waiting, etc...), advertised price "ONLY" >$39.95. The actual billed amount was above $55 (essentially, $39.95 was >a lie).I can believe that. Most of those "fees" are fixed, not based on the service. You'd pay the same if it were a $150 plan (whatever it might include).
Reply by ●October 9, 20162016-10-09
They can figure out the taxes and fees for you they are just to lazy to do the math. I have had them do it many times when i make adjustments to my services. -- AL'S COMPUTERS "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ntar4p$95j$1@dont-email.me...> On 10/8/2016 3:26 AM, Robert Baer wrote: >> krw wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 03:19:07 -0800, Robert Baer >>> <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> krw wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 08:34:51 -0700, Ken Blake<Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 20:28:59 -0400, krw<krw@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 16:29:23 -0700, Ken Blake<Ken@invalid.news.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 15:45:10 -0400, krw<krw@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> About like the Direct TV droids who accost me in stores. I tell >>>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>>> loudly, that their service sucks so bad that even as bad as AT&T >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> been, it's worlds better than DTV. ...and I get Netflix now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What don't you like about Direct TV? I've been using them for the >>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>> few months, and so far they've been fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dropout every time a cloud rolls by (not quite that bad, but...). >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> promised that they could fix that but never did. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As I said, I've had only a little experience with them, but I've >>>>>> never >>>>>> had a problem anything like that. The only dropout we've had was for >>>>>> about ten minutes during a severe thunderstorm. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Surly >>>>>>> representatives. Charging for the repair of *their* equipment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've had no experience with either (except for the man who installed >>>>>> it, and he was very pleasant and helpful). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Cost. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Our only alternative is Comcast, and they are substantially less >>>>>> expensive than Comcast. >>>>> >>>>> Are you comparing teaser rates to normal rates? AT&T was about the >>>>> same price as DTV but includes Internet. DSL was more than $50/mo and >>>>> while neither is perfectly reliable, the fiber is better and 50x >>>>> faster than DSL. >>>> I do not think that there are any "teaser" rates; now advertized >>>> rates is anther story. >>> >>> You're wrong, of course. >>> >>>> Those are always bullshit, since all of the taxes and fees are >>>> studiously not included. >>> >>> Irrelevant. >>> >>>> Actual cost is always about double the ad rates. >>> >>> No. >> Dew tell; give *one* verifiable example. >> >> EVERY ad i have seen: throw-away fliers (Comcast,Dish) in mailbox, ads >> from provider (Comcast in my case), newspaper blow-in ads, etc wave >> banners about "ONLY" blah blah and 6 point multi-liner that talks about >> (BUT NO QUOTES) taxes, fees, installation, etc. >> Give us an example where the rate quoted is correct (or even in the >> ballpark). > > I have tried to ask about the fees and "taxes" and been told they don't > know, seems the billing computer is the only entity that actually knows > the amount of taxes. Once when I called to ask about the quarterly billed > "franchise fee" and who it was going to, I was told they didn't know and I > would have to ask my franchise contact. > > -- > > Rick C
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I am aware my news reader does it but have not have the time to change it. -- AL'S COMPUTERS "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ntari0$95j$2@dont-email.me...> On 10/6/2016 2:35 AM, Andy wrote: >> The second part of youre post Phil was not mine i was replying to the >> original poster >> my post ends after the talk about channel bonding. >> when you see the same hear that is the other posters reply to mine:) > > Dude! When you top post, you have no justification for complaining how > quotes of your messages show up. I can't believe you have made so many > posts here and no one has pointed that out to you... > > -- > > Rick C
Reply by ●October 9, 20162016-10-09
On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 01:02:54 -0400, "Andy" <N@n.com> wrote:>I am aware my news reader does it but have not have the time to change it.It has very little to do with your newsreader. Regardless of where the newsreader puts the cursor, you can move it yourself.
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Ken Blake wrote:> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 01:02:54 -0400, "Andy" <N@n.com> wrote: > >> I am aware my news reader does it but have not have the time to change it. > > > It has very little to do with your newsreader. Regardless of where > the newsreader puts the cursor, you can move it yourself.Outlook Express can use OEQuoteFix. It's possible that third-party thing can make OE a good citizen. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ Paul
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I was told it's in my news reader settings ken so ill change it when i get time :) -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Ken Blake" <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote in message news:o1lkvbh3v3b5acncjgl9nse7cknamda9jt@4ax.com... On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 01:02:54 -0400, "Andy" <N@n.com> wrote:>I am aware my news reader does it but have not have the time to change it.It has very little to do with your newsreader. Regardless of where the newsreader puts the cursor, you can move it yourself.
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Thank you ill look in to it -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in message news:ntes4r$d5r$2@dont-email.me...> Ken Blake wrote: >> On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 01:02:54 -0400, "Andy" <N@n.com> wrote: >> >>> I am aware my news reader does it but have not have the time to change >>> it. >> >> >> It has very little to do with your newsreader. Regardless of where >> the newsreader puts the cursor, you can move it yourself. > > Outlook Express can use OEQuoteFix. It's possible > that third-party thing can make OE a good citizen. > > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ > > Paul >
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