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Reply by ●January 9, 20242024-01-09
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 11:38:38 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:> This has been in the science news lately. > > https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/why-some-people-cant-visualize-images-and-may-dream-in-words > > Something like one to three per cent of the population can't visualize > objects. I wonder if such people can still design electronics. > > And maybe 10% of the population is never really in the dark. They (we) > always see flashing geometric patterns, which are distinct from > hallucinations.And why should anyone care? Individual differences can be interesting, but John Larkin doesn't seem to be able to design electronics and obsesses about what he does when he cobbles together parts in what he imagines to be electronic design. This hasn't stopped thread from getting something like thirty response, from all the usual people, including five from John Larkin, but about half of them are posts from a a labelled as "off-topic alerts" calling people idiots and arseholes, but not explaining why he thinks that. I've taken to marking his posts as spam, but theye don't get deleted. Google has a last taken to deleting the southeast asian gambling ads which I mark as a spam advertising regulated goods and services, but meaningless noise doesn't seem to worry them, -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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The arsehole Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... -- Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:> X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5842:0:b0:67f:62db:dfa8 with SMTP id de2-20020ad45842000000b0067f62dbdfa8mr2234qvb.8.1704853769575; > Tue, 09 Jan 2024 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) > X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:3387:b0:5d3:d46a:1edd with SMTP id > fl7-20020a05690c338700b005d3d46a1eddmr188325ywb.2.1704853769088; Tue, 09 Jan > 2024 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) > Path: not-for-mail > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 18:29:28 -0800 (PST) > In-Reply-To: <bma9pi9ku61qchabtps5f6toqj91d0u5q6@4ax.com> > Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.102.83.245; posting-account=SJ46pgoAAABuUDuHc5uDiXN30ATE-zi- > NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.102.83.245 > References: <bma9pi9ku61qchabtps5f6toqj91d0u5q6@4ax.com> > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Message-ID: <1818fefd-3462-4b31-a282-ed8a468f3452n@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: mental imaging > From: Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> > Injection-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 02:29:29 +0000 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-Received-Bytes: 2641
Reply by ●January 10, 20242024-01-10
On 1/8/2024 10:02 PM, John Larkin wrote:> On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 01:46:47 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> > wrote: > >> On 2024-01-08, john larkin wrote: >>> [...] >>> When do you get your best electronic design ideas? >> >> When I've had a chance to relax (note - they're still *bad* by good long >> way ;) ) > > My mental model is that, given some modest kit of components, there is > a multidimensional "solution space" of possible circuits that could be > made from them. With, say, 200 parts the number of possible circuits > exceeds the number of electrons in the universe. All the digikey parts > make more. So how does one search that space in, say, a few hours or > days? > > Use quantum computing. Set up a goodness mask and apply it to all of > them simultaneously. >There's a standard "mental imagery vividness test": <https://aphantasia.com/study/vviq/> Apparently there's a condition called "aphantasia" where the person is unable to visualize imagery in their "minds eye" and can only think in words. Purportedly more common among engineers though I'm unsure what if any disciplines are involved. But total aphantasia is rare and it's a matter of degree, I expect people who are strongly phantasic might like fiction significantly more - imagine being able to pick up a book and visualize its contents very strongly almost like you were watching a film. Sure save money on Netflix. I'm not a big fiction fan, I was moreso as a kid. My test rates me somewhere in the middle, not sure if it's an ability that perhaps tends to decline with age and is strongest in children. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
