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Started by john larkin January 15, 2024
I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1

and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a
few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9
connector, but it would use a lot of panel space.

Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in
industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but
I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good
connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies,
breakouts, things like that.


mandag den 15. januar 2024 kl. 19.38.17 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
> I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure, > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 > > and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a > few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 > connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. > > Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in > industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but > I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good > connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, > breakouts, things like that.
for simple IO is often see things like https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/pluggable-terminal-blocks or maybe mini-fit/nano-fit
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
> mandag den 15. januar 2024 kl. 19.38.17 UTC+1 skrev john larkin: >> I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure, >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 >> >> and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a >> few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 >> connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. >> >> Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in >> industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but >> I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good >> connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, >> breakouts, things like that. > > for simple IO is often see things like > https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/pluggable-terminal-blocks > > or maybe mini-fit/nano-fit > > > > >
We mostly use M8 and M12. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:38:17&#8239;AM UTC-8, john larkin wrote:
> I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure, > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 > > and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a > few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 > connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. > > Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in > industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but > I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good > connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, > breakouts, things like that.
To make a foolproof connection, go connectorless. IRDA is classic. As for the 'standard cable assemblies', ya can't beat air for supply-chain availability. And, there's not a whole lot of damage your clumsiest user can inflict.
On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 5:38:17&#8239;AM UTC+11, john larkin wrote:
> I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure, > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 > > and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a > few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 > connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. > > Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in > industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but > I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good > connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, > breakouts, things like that. >
** The popular Hirose connector fits that description. Compact, locking with up to 12 pins, keyable so similar connectors are physically incompatible. Ready made leads exist. ...... Phil
On 1/15/2024 9:32 PM, whit3rd wrote:
> To make a foolproof connection, go connectorless. IRDA is classic. > As for the 'standard cable assemblies', ya can't beat air for supply-chain > availability. And, there's not a whole lot of damage your clumsiest > user can inflict.
That, of course, won't work if you need a galvanic connection to a specific signal... OTOH, I am seeing variations of this becoming more commonplace, in designs. The "RdTd" hidden serial port has become a vulnerability in many designs. When I queried my colleagues for baud rates to support in a small terminal server I designed, the list was amusing -- few recognizable hardware protocols or configurations! Users will tinker -- if they THINK they know what they are tinkering with (relatively easy to trace foils if you are using OTS devices). "Wireless" (regardless of technology) raises the bar. Even if they *think* to look for such a link, bastardizing protocols (and encrypting traffic) quickly close off that attack surface! [And, nowadays, the cost of such a link is often on a par with that of a physical connector]
On 1/15/2024 20:38, john larkin wrote:
> I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure, > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 > > and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a > few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 > connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. > > Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in > industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but > I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good > connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, > breakouts, things like that. > >
some 15 years ago I used this one, still available: https://www.mouser.bg/ProductDetail/Hirose-Connector/LX60-20S?qs=XQjbzJWzFPUlja7Rly0Ljg%3D%3D not circular etc. and no idea how popular it is, but well, I have used it and perhaps I'll use it again.
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> Wrote in message:r
> Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:> mandag den 15. januar 2024 kl. 19.38.17 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:>> I'm doing a bunch of boxes, in this same enclosure, >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 >> >> and I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a >> few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 >> connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. >> >> Is there a more modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in >> industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but >> I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good >> connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, >> breakouts, things like that.> > for simple IO is often see things like> https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/pluggable-terminal-blocks> > or maybe mini-fit/nano-fit> > > > > We mostly use M8 and M12. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
And they aren't expensive either, the 6pin m12 I'm using is $16 per connector pair. Kinda short on space in the shell though. Tight fit. Plus you can get pre made cables. Cheers -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
Martin Rid <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> Wrote in message:r >> Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:> mandag den 15. >> januar 2024 kl. 19.38.17 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:>> I'm doing a bunch of >> boxes, in this same enclosure, >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/43gma000fpuocyf/T130_box.jpg?raw=1 >> >> and >> I'd like to have all the boxes have an auxiliary connector, with a >> >> few analog and digital i/o's and such. I could use an ancient D9 >> >> connector, but it would use a lot of panel space. >> >> Is there a more >> modern, maybe circular, connector that is popular in >> >> industrial/embedded applications? Well, there are about a million but >> >> I was wondering is there is anything like a concensus of what's a good >> >> connector. Ideally there would be some standard cable assemblies, >> >>>> breakouts, things like that.> > for simple IO is often see things like> >>>> https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/pluggable-terminal-blocks> > or maybe >>>> mini-fit/nano-fit> > > > > We mostly use M8 and M12. Cheers Phil >>>> Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical >>>> Innovations LLC /Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, >>>> Photonics, Analog Electronics > > And they aren't expensive either, the 6pin m12 I'm using is $16 > per connector pair. > Kinda short on space in the shell though. Tight fit. > > Plus you can get pre made cables. > > Cheers
Yikes, what are they, platinum? Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics