On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 15:15:51 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:>torsdag den 9. november 2023 kl. 23.58.20 UTC+1 skrev john larkin: >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >> >On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >> >>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >> >>> >> >> >> >> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >> > >> >I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >> > >> ><https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >> > >> >Cheers >> > >> >Phil Hobbs >> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. > >that is basically what these are, https://www.fluke.com/en-us/product/accessories/test-leads/tl910Cool, a $1300 handheld DVM. https://www.fluke.com/en-us/product/calibration-tools/ma-loop-calibrators/fluke-789
Fluke has lost their mind
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >>> >>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >>> >>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >> >> > >Darned board. ;) > >Phil HobbsWe could start a new thread.
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John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >>>> >>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >>>> >>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Phil Hobbs >>> >>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >>> >>> >> >> Darned board. ;) >> >> Phil Hobbs > > We could start a new thread.Pure fabrication. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 03:44:29 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >>>>> >>>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >>>>> >>>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>> >>>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Darned board. ;) >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> We could start a new thread. > >Pure fabrication. > >Cheers > >Phil HobbsSo what?
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On 10/11/2023 03:44, Phil Hobbs wrote:> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >>>>> >>>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >>>>> >>>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>> >>>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Darned board. ;) >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> We could start a new thread. > > Pure fabrication. > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs >You'll have me in stitches with these yarns. piglet
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 15:31:44 +0000, Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote:>On 10/11/2023 03:44, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> >>>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >>>>>> >>>>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Darned board. ;) >>>> >>>> Phil Hobbs >>> >>> We could start a new thread. >> >> Pure fabrication. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs >> > >You'll have me in stitches with these yarns. > >pigletWhat's your point?
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John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 03:44:29 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> >>>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >>>>>> >>>>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Darned board. ;) >>>> >>>> Phil Hobbs >>> >>> We could start a new thread. >> >> Pure fabrication. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs > > So what? > >It might unravel totally. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 15:31:44 +0000, Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > >On 10/11/2023 03:44, Phil Hobbs wrote: > >> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: > >>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs > >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs > >>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: > >>>>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Phil Hobbs > >>>>> > >>>>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Darned board. ;) > >>>> > >>>> Phil Hobbs > >>> > >>> We could start a new thread. > >> > >> Pure fabrication. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Phil Hobbs > >> > > > >You'll have me in stitches with these yarns. > > > >piglet > > What's your point?That's crewel ! -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:53:09 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:>John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 15:31:44 +0000, Piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On 10/11/2023 03:44, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51:39 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >> >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >> >>>>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> >>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >>>>>>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> <https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Cheers >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Phil Hobbs >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Darned board. ;) >> >>>> >> >>>> Phil Hobbs >> >>> >> >>> We could start a new thread. >> >> >> >> Pure fabrication. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Phil Hobbs >> >> >> > >> >You'll have me in stitches with these yarns. >> > >> >piglet >> >> What's your point? > >That's crewel !Hey, don't pin me down.
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2023 14:58:08 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:>On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 18:12:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs ><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >>On 2023-11-08 18:08, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> On 2023-11-08 14:04, john larkin wrote: >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-TL81A-Test-Deluxe-Electronic/dp/B000NI2B6A/ref=pd_lutyp_rtpb_sccl_2_1/142-3653234-3875240?pd_rd_w=8wX1f&content-id=amzn1.sym.9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_p=9c90becd-3e6e-4609-85c5-d4298ba525ad&pf_rd_r=W2VAXEFG42ZY2RN15N9V&pd_rd_wg=Tc99b&pd_rd_r=eca67892-4420-4869-8d8e-145a23c7fb1f&pd_rd_i=B000NI2B6A&th=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> Some of their handheld DVMs are over $400. >>>> >>> >>> I paid $275 for an original crispy flavor(*) Fluke 87 in about 1989. >> >>I should add that I'm very fond of these DMM probes: >> >><https://probemaster.com/8000-series-standard/> >> >>Cheers >> >>Phil Hobbs > >I was just probing a very tight board with a sewing needle.Imagine cutting the needle in two, splinting it back together but bridging the gap with a 950 ohm 0603 resistor, and soldering a coax center to the top end. You now have a tiny many-GHz 10:1 probe. At most signal levels, such probes don't need a ground.
