I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? <rolls eyes>
Ultimate Dumbing Down
Started by ●August 31, 2023
Reply by ●August 31, 20232023-08-31
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Reply by ●August 31, 20232023-08-31
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:>I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some >booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, >he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) > >Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. >Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the >license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? > >Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers >if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure >the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? > ><rolls eyes>Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy.
Reply by ●August 31, 20232023-08-31
On 01-Sept-23 12:31 pm, John Larkin wrote:> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y > <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some >> booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, >> he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) >> >> Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. >> Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the >> license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? >> >> Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers >> if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure >> the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? >> >> <rolls eyes> > > Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy. >I suppose it avoids discriminating against people who just look young for their age. When I was young (a long time ago - sigh) I was twice stopped by police while driving my own car because they thought I looked too young to be driving. Since this was in the UK, neither case escalated into a shooting [*] Sylvia. [*] Though the fact that neither the public nor the police are allowed to routinely [**] carry firearms in the UK may have been a factor. [**] Sorry about the split infinitive.
Reply by ●September 1, 20232023-09-01
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 12:53:19 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:>On 01-Sept-23 12:31 pm, John Larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y >> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >> >>> I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some >>> booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, >>> he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) >>> >>> Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. >>> Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the >>> license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? >>> >>> Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers >>> if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure >>> the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? >>> >>> <rolls eyes> >> >> Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy. >> > >I suppose it avoids discriminating against people who just look young >for their age. > >When I was young (a long time ago - sigh) I was twice stopped by police >while driving my own car because they thought I looked too young to be >driving. Since this was in the UK, neither case escalated into a >shooting [*] > >Sylvia. > >[*] Though the fact that neither the public nor the police are allowed >to routinely [**] carry firearms in the UK may have been a factor. > >[**] Sorry about the split infinitive.Oh, grow up.
Reply by ●September 1, 20232023-09-01
On 01/09/2023 03:31, John Larkin wrote:> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y > <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some >> booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, >> he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) >> >> Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. >> Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the >> license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? >> >> Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers >> if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure >> the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? >> >> <rolls eyes> > > Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy.What a curious rule to have in "The Land of the Free". Papers please... I noticed that when we bought food and a beer from some spotty teenager in a US fast food joint they had to get their supervisor to come and handle the very dangerous alcoholic liquid and make the final sale. It isn't like we look anything like remotely under 25! -- Martin Brown
Reply by ●September 1, 20232023-09-01
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 11:58:33 +0100, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:>On 01/09/2023 03:31, John Larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y >> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >> >>> I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some >>> booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, >>> he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) >>> >>> Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. >>> Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the >>> license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? >>> >>> Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers >>> if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure >>> the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? >>> >>> <rolls eyes> >> >> Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy. > >What a curious rule to have in "The Land of the Free". Papers please...I assume that the management doesn't want the checkout people having to make judgements about age. Can kids buy liquor where you live?
Reply by ●September 1, 20232023-09-01
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 9:38:52 PM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:> I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some > booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, > he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) > > Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. > Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the > license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? > > Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers > if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure > the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? > > <rolls eyes>Your limitations in thinking amaze me. You seem to think everything in the world should be run the way you would run it, if you were in charge of every management position in the entire company, with perfect knowledge and instant communications. The reason for automating the verification of age in purchasing liquor is accuracy. People screw up. That's why 35,000 people die in auto accidents in the US every year. Selling alcohol to someone underage is a big deal, potentially costing a store their liquor license and/or landing someone in jail. Why would you not be able to see this immediately, without a big discussion? -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●September 1, 20232023-09-01
On 8/31/2023 7:53 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:> I suppose it avoids discriminating against people who just look young for their > age. > > When I was young (a long time ago - sigh) I was twice stopped by police while > driving my own car because they thought I looked too young to be driving.I've found that peoples' (cursory) perceptions of age are largely based on facial expressions, manner of dress, etc. Folks who seem to be in a perpetual "scowl" always seem to be perceived as "older" (grumpy?). [What *is* it with old folks that they tend to be so visibly unhappy all the time? Watch people driving their cars or walking around a store... Jeez, is life THAT bad??] I almost always have a smile on my face -- as if I'm thinking about a private joke. And, dress like a teenager. I suspect that is what drives the consistent underestimates of my age. When I get together with colleagues for offsite visits, some dinner experience inevitably draws attention to this error in judgement ("And what will your SON be having?" "Oh, your DAD must be so proud of you..." "Can I see some ID, please?"). [My colleagues just grin but their wives REALLY get upset if the comment implies THEY are older...] I've taken to growing a beard in preparation for these occasions as *that* is now snow white -- and really hard to ignore if you're looking at me! (though I despise facial hair and rid myself of it soon after the trip)> Since > this was in the UK, neither case escalated into a shooting [*]You have to make more of an effort...
Reply by ●September 1, 20232023-09-01
On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:54:17 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:> On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 12:53:19 +1000, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> > wrote: > >On 01-Sept-23 12:31 pm, John Larkin wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 18:38:35 -0700, Don Y > >> <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> > >>> I had to visit a package store, yesterday, to buy some > >>> booze for a friend's bday. After ringing up the sale, > >>> he asked for my ID (REALLY? Do I look *20*? 30?? 40???) > >>> > >>> Turns out, they've got a little appliance to verify your age. > >>> Despite the fact that the two items most visible on the > >>> license are your birthdate... and your birthdate?? > >>> > >>> Just how low have they set the qualifications for cashiers > >>> if they can't make THAT decision, unaided?? Are they sure > >>> the cashier can differentiate a $5 from a $20? > >>> > >>> <rolls eyes> > >> > >> Our Safeway is asking everyone that buys beer for an ID. New policy. > >> > > > >I suppose it avoids discriminating against people who just look young > >for their age. > > > >When I was young (a long time ago - sigh) I was twice stopped by police > >while driving my own car because they thought I looked too young to be > >driving. Since this was in the UK, neither case escalated into a > >shooting [*] > > > >Sylvia. > > > >[*] Though the fact that neither the public nor the police are allowed > >to routinely [**] carry firearms in the UK may have been a factor. > > > >[**] Sorry about the split infinitive. > Oh, grow up.Try looking in the mirror! -- Rick C. + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
