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Started by Lamont Cranston May 19, 2023
On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>wrote: >> >>>On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>> >>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>> >>>> Dear Group! >>>> >>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, mentioned here under its code name of S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>> >>>> QSPICE(S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>> >>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact that simulation requirements change. >>>> >>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>> >>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>> Author of QSPICE >>> >>> >>>I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>the obligations of the tester? >> >>Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >> > >Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - > >boB
The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful. But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice. I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they do wreck it.
On Sun, 21 May 2023 07:18:38 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin >><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>>> >>>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>> >>>>> Dear Group! >>>>> >>>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, mentioned here under its code name of S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>>> >>>>> QSPICE(S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>>> >>>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact that simulation requirements change. >>>>> >>>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>> >>>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>>> Author of QSPICE >>>> >>>> >>>>I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>>the obligations of the tester? >>> >>>Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >>> >> >>Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >>browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - >> >>boB > >The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful.
Just big enough to see at least how complicated the schematic is.
> >But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice.
Me too.
> >I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they >do wreck it.
Instead of just letting LTspice update from within the program, I download the .EXE or now, the .MSI files that contain the complete installation and put the date and/or the version number in the file name. So if a version screws something up, I can always go back to an older version. Disk space is cheap for this purpose. boB
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin >> <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>>> >>>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>> >>>>> Dear Group! >>>>> >>>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, >>>>> mentioned here under its code name of S&middot;P&middot;Q&middot;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>>> >>>>> QSPICE(S&middot;P&middot;Q&middot;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I >>>>> started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse >>>>> Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with >>>>> code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>>> >>>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and >>>>> manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more >>>>> robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include >>>>> massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned >>>>> out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact >>>>> that simulation requirements change. >>>>> >>>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming >>>>> soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>> >>>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>>> Author of QSPICE >>>> >>>> >>>> I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>> the obligations of the tester? >>> >>> Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >>> >> >> Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >> browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - >> >> boB > > The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful. > > But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice. > > I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they > do wreck it. > >
Yup. They&rsquo;ve already broken the part selection dialogue&mdash;it goes out to lunch for several seconds when you start typing. -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
On Sun, 21 May 2023 15:09:55 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 21 May 2023 07:18:38 -0700, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin >>><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Group! >>>>>> >>>>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, mentioned here under its code name of S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>>>> >>>>>> QSPICE(S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>>>> >>>>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact that simulation requirements change. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>>>> Author of QSPICE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>>>the obligations of the tester? >>>> >>>>Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >>>> >>> >>>Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >>>browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - >>> >>>boB >> >>The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful. > >Just big enough to see at least how complicated the schematic is. > >> >>But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice. > >Me too. > >> >>I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they >>do wreck it. > >Instead of just letting LTspice update from within the program, I >download the .EXE or now, the .MSI files that contain the complete >installation and put the date and/or the version number in the file >name. So if a version screws something up, I can always go back >to an older version. Disk space is cheap for this purpose. > >boB
Does the .msi file need online access to install?
On Sun, 21 May 2023 22:17:59 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin >>> <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Group! >>>>>> >>>>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, >>>>>> mentioned here under its code name of S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>>>> >>>>>> QSPICE(S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I >>>>>> started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse >>>>>> Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with >>>>>> code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>>>> >>>>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and >>>>>> manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more >>>>>> robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include >>>>>> massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned >>>>>> out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact >>>>>> that simulation requirements change. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming >>>>>> soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>>>> Author of QSPICE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>>> the obligations of the tester? >>>> >>>> Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >>>> >>> >>> Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >>> browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - >>> >>> boB >> >> The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful. >> >> But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice. >> >> I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they >> do wreck it. >> >> > >Yup. They&#4294967295;ve already broken the part selection dialogue&#4294967295;it goes out to >lunch for several seconds when you start typing.
Looks like the Win7 version XVII is unsupported now.
On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:08:19 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 21 May 2023 15:09:55 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 21 May 2023 07:18:38 -0700, John Larkin >><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin >>>><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>>>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>>>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Group! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, mentioned here under its code name of S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> QSPICE(S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact that simulation requirements change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>>>>> Author of QSPICE >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>>>>the obligations of the tester? >>>>> >>>>>Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >>>>browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - >>>> >>>>boB >>> >>>The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful. >> >>Just big enough to see at least how complicated the schematic is. >> >>> >>>But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice. >> >>Me too. >> >>> >>>I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they >>>do wreck it. >> >>Instead of just letting LTspice update from within the program, I >>download the .EXE or now, the .MSI files that contain the complete >>installation and put the date and/or the version number in the file >>name. So if a version screws something up, I can always go back >>to an older version. Disk space is cheap for this purpose. >> >>boB > >Does the .msi file need online access to install?
No. It's the whole LTspice program. Being able to install LTspice completely offline is important to me, too. boB
On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:16:11 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 21 May 2023 22:17:59 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs ><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >>John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 20 May 2023 21:01:46 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 20 May 2023 13:04:53 -0700, John Larkin >>>> <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:23:23 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/19/2023 11:28 AM, Lamont Cranston wrote: >>>>>>> I know nothing about it, but there is discussion on this IOgroup, >>>>>>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/new_simulator_written_by_mike/98208355?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C180%2C0&jump=1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Group! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The simulator I've been working on for the last three years, >>>>>>> mentioned here under its code name of S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R, will beta imminently as QSPICE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> QSPICE(S&#4294967295;P&#4294967295;Q&#4294967295;R) started out as a mission to get SPICE right. I >>>>>>> started anew with the open sources. Found bugs in Kundurt's Sparse >>>>>>> Matrix Package that I think can only be found if starting anew with >>>>>>> code one already knows. The timestep control is also entirely rearchitected. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But with the help of affiliations with a number of IC design and >>>>>>> manufacturing concerns, it turned out to be more than just a more >>>>>>> robust and faster analog SPICE program. QSPICE allows one to include >>>>>>> massive amounts of digital. I'm humbled that the simulator turned >>>>>>> out better than I could have expected. QSPICE responds to the fact >>>>>>> that simulation requirements change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you wish to participate in the Qorvo QSPICE beta, which is coming >>>>>>> soon, you can sign up at https://p.qorvo.com/qspice >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike Engelhardt >>>>>>> Author of QSPICE >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've never been a beta tester. LTSpice IV is what I live by. What are >>>>>> the obligations of the tester? >>>>> >>>>> Upgrade to XVII! It's worth the small hassle. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Evidently the new LTspice 17.1 doesn't support schematic preview while >>>> browsing for files. :{ I'll get over it - >>>> >>>> boB >>> >>> The little thumbnails? They are too tiny to be useful. >>> >>> But I hope Analog Devices doesn't ruin LT Spice. >>> >>> I guess I should save a backup copy of the current one, in case they >>> do wreck it. >>> >>> >> >>Yup. They&#4294967295;ve already broken the part selection dialogue&#4294967295;it goes out to >>lunch for several seconds when you start typing. > >Looks like the Win7 version XVII is unsupported now.
At least those versions are completely usable and installable. boB