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Can you describe what this term means?

Started by Lamont Cranston May 19, 2023
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:12:47 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:

> >> I'm not sure of the definition of threshold frequency. > >> The lit is kinda all over, some say 11Hz is optimum, others say HF (1000Hz?) Some say AC is better than DC pulse, and Vise Versa. > >> I see no mention of the Actual Threshold frequency, it could very well be that threshold frequency is dependent on the > >> ratio of oil/water. water/oil emulsion and also the type of oil. > >> Mikek
> It will be sensitive to both the proportion of oil and water and the > size of the oil particles. You could try measuring how much power you > are delivering into the system as a way of optimising it.
We were measuring power, up until the last iteration of 8 output voltages to be used with 4 test at 4 different voltages. Ideally we would measure each vessel, that is a bit unwieldy. Yes, we have found different oils have different capacitance, and I have told my son to measure and record every type of emulsion that he tests, as this may be a way to correlate, what power, frequency, AC, DC pulse, or even duty cycle is optimum.
> > (that could also be misleading but it would be a start > > > > Threshold frequency is almost certainly dependant on what is being > > measured with respect to frequency. withcout concrete context it is > > meaningless. > f_th (in Tex notation) it's meaning from the context is threshold > frequency. I don't know what it is in this system but it is likely to be > related to the separation of the particles in the emulsion, their size > distribution and the amount of electric field applied. > > To get them to coalesce you need to bang them together and as you do so > there are then fewer bigger particles further apart. My instinct is that > f_th will fall as the suspension begins to separate. > > Almost all colloidal systems have some critical behaviour when the > suspension reaches a critical density and so a suspension of small > conducting balls will snap from being an insulator to being a conductor > as the concentration of particles is slowly increased.
We have seen some increase in current flow as coalescence happens and contaminated water falls to the bottom. I don't know how significant that was, and hopefully he will get back to measuring that. Thanks, Mikek
> > -- > Martin Brown