Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
LTSpice UI
Started by ●March 2, 2023
Reply by ●March 2, 20232023-03-02
On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote:> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? > > I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. > > I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. >Which version of LTSpice? -- Dogs make me happy. Humans make my head hurt.
Reply by ●March 2, 20232023-03-02
On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10 PM UTC-4, John S wrote:> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: > > Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? > > > > I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. > > > > I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. > > > Which version of LTSpice?Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 -- Rick C. + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●March 3, 20232023-03-03
On 3/2/2023 7:38 PM, Ricky wrote:> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10 PM UTC-4, John S wrote: >> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: >>> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? >>> >>> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. >>> >>> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. >>> >> Which version of LTSpice? > > Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 >Yes, it changed from IV to XVII. I don't use 17. -- Dogs make me happy. Humans make my head hurt.
Reply by ●March 3, 20232023-03-03
On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:06:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:> On 3/2/2023 7:38 PM, Ricky wrote: > > On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10 PM UTC-4, John S wrote: > >> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: > >>> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? > >>> > >>> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. > >>> > >>> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. > >>> > >> Which version of LTSpice? > > > > Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 > > > Yes, it changed from IV to XVII. > > I don't use 17.Ok... Are you suggesting the UI has significantly changed between the two lineages??? Are they still updating IV? -- Rick C. -- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging -- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●March 3, 20232023-03-03
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 06:05:58 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote:>On 3/2/2023 7:38 PM, Ricky wrote: >> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10?PM UTC-4, John S wrote: >>> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: >>>> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? >>>> >>>> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. >>>> >>>> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. >>>> >>> Which version of LTSpice? >> >> Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 >> > > >Yes, it changed from IV to XVII.Not much. And there is a setting for roller zoom direction.> >I don't use 17.Why not? It works great and has all the new ADI models (of various quality)
Reply by ●March 4, 20232023-03-04
On 3/3/2023 8:34 PM, Ricky wrote:> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:06:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote: >> On 3/2/2023 7:38 PM, Ricky wrote: >>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10 PM UTC-4, John S wrote: >>>> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: >>>>> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? >>>>> >>>>> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. >>>>> >>>>> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. >>>>> >>>> Which version of LTSpice? >>> >>> Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 >>> >> Yes, it changed from IV to XVII. >> >> I don't use 17. > > Ok... Are you suggesting the UI has significantly changed between the two lineages??? Are they still updating IV? >I'm not sure about all the UI changes but I had some undesired results using V17 when it first came out so I decided to stay with V4. No, they are not updating V4. I don't need updated components because I am always checking out my crazy ideas in small, simple networks just for sanity's sake. -- Dogs make me happy. Humans make my head hurt.
Reply by ●March 4, 20232023-03-04
On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 11:18:09 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:> On 3/3/2023 8:34 PM, Ricky wrote: > > On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:06:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote: > >> On 3/2/2023 7:38 PM, Ricky wrote: > >>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10 PM UTC-4, John S wrote: > >>>> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: > >>>>> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? > >>>>> > >>>>> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. > >>>>> > >>>>> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. > >>>>> > >>>> Which version of LTSpice? > >>> > >>> Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 > >>> > >> Yes, it changed from IV to XVII. > >> > >> I don't use 17. > > > > Ok... Are you suggesting the UI has significantly changed between the two lineages??? Are they still updating IV? > > > I'm not sure about all the UI changesSo it may not have changed? -- Rick C. -+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging -+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●March 4, 20232023-03-04
On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 10:17:54 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote:>On 3/3/2023 8:34 PM, Ricky wrote: >> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:06:11?AM UTC-5, John S wrote: >>> On 3/2/2023 7:38 PM, Ricky wrote: >>>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:18:10?PM UTC-4, John S wrote: >>>>> On 3/2/2023 5:25 PM, Ricky wrote: >>>>>> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb. >>>>>> >>>>>> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler. >>>>>> >>>>> Which version of LTSpice? >>>> >>>> Did the UI change? I must have missed that. This is 17.0.36 >>>> >>> Yes, it changed from IV to XVII. >>> >>> I don't use 17. >> >> Ok... Are you suggesting the UI has significantly changed between the two lineages??? Are they still updating IV? >> > >I'm not sure about all the UI changes but I had some undesired results >using V17 when it first came out so I decided to stay with V4. No, they >are not updating V4. I don't need updated components because I am always >checking out my crazy ideas in small, simple networks just for sanity's >sake.ADI has been adding a lot of device models, but some are mediocre or worse.
Reply by ●March 6, 20232023-03-06
On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 3:25:38 PM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:> Is there anyone here who thinks LTspice has a good UI?It's okay. Not bad, for sure. All LTspice does is spice sims, so it doesn't need a lot. Because I've used Mentor means I've had much greater suffering in my life than using LTspice. I think the editor has a lineage somehow aligned with Cohesion Designer. But I am not sure.> I've been working with it for a week or so, after not using for over a year. It's very hard to reacclimate to the zoom in and out being backwards from every UI I know under Windows. The Function keys will become familiar again, if I continue using it, but what an uphill climb.Scroll wheel works the same as other progs for me. (Some other programs need the CTRL button pushed simultaneously with wheel scroll, but the direction is the same.) Alt+backspace is still undo after 20+ years. It isn't documented anymore, I think. It is also F9. Rather odd. But you can change these. See C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\LTspiceXVII.ini> I saw in an LTspice post that Mike E. is writing a new simulator. I hope he makes it compatible with the existing models. But I suppose he would not be able to work with the company models that don't have accessible contents. I'm wondering how useful it will be to the engineering community as a whole. ...I don't see the point, frankly, unless he's writing one for TI.> ...There are lots of models you just can't get other than as locked by ADI. I think TI has given up on the idea of TINA being their goto simulator. LTspice just has too much steam on the boiler.TI loses SMPS business because ADI/Linear have a simulator and fast SMPS sim models. I mean, that was the whole point. It was first called "SwitcherCAD."
