On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 4:20:56 PM UTC-8, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:> lørdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 00.54.25 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin: > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 14:07:53 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen > > <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote: > > > > >fredag den 12. november 2021 kl. 18.33.10 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com: > > >> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:10:53 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> >I could use a 100 pin LQFP, but when it is impossible to know what > > >> >part is available next week, I cannot. > > >> > > > >> >On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 13:56:52 -0800, John Larkin > > >> ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:12:56 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>>If they stay in stock, life is getting better. > > >> >> > > >> >>Alas, not in our package. But maybe things are breaking. > > >> We use STM32F207IGT6, LQFP176 package, in several products. The > > >> question is whether we should gamble on them becoming available, and > > >> design them into a new product. > > > > > >why the F207? seems to me the F407 is more common, it is probably pin compatible > > >just just faster and with an FPU, M4 vs. M3 core > > > > > > > > I don't know. Some people selected it last year, as a replacement for > > an EOL NXP part for new designs. It seems plenty fast. > maybe it was cheap, I see lots of boards with and people using stm32f4xx > don't think I've seen any with stm32f2xxOr someone got large inventory to push it to John. F207 is CM3, older design. F4xx is CM4.
There are STM32s in Digikey
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l=C3=B8rdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 04.06.27 UTC+1 skrev Ed Lee:> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 4:20:56 PM UTC-8, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:==20> > l=C3=B8rdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 00.54.25 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:==20> > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 14:07:53 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen==20> > > <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:=20 > > >=20 > > > >fredag den 12. november 2021 kl. 18.33.10 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlan=dsniptechnology.com:=20> > > >> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:10:53 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:==20> > > >>=20 > > > >> >I could use a 100 pin LQFP, but when it is impossible to know wha=t=20> > > >> >part is available next week, I cannot.=20 > > > >> >=20 > > > >> >On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 13:56:52 -0800, John Larkin=20 > > > >> ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:=20 > > > >> >=20 > > > >> >>On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:12:56 +0200, LM <sala...@mail.com> wrote:==20> > > >> >>=20 > > > >> >>>If they stay in stock, life is getting better.=20 > > > >> >>=20 > > > >> >>Alas, not in our package. But maybe things are breaking.=20 > > > >> We use STM32F207IGT6, LQFP176 package, in several products. The=20 > > > >> question is whether we should gamble on them becoming available, a=nd=20> > > >> design them into a new product.=20 > > > >=20 > > > >why the F207? seems to me the F407 is more common, it is probably pi=n compatible=20> > > >just just faster and with an FPU, M4 vs. M3 core=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > I don't know. Some people selected it last year, as a replacement for==20> > > an EOL NXP part for new designs. It seems plenty fast.=20 > > maybe it was cheap, I see lots of boards with and people using stm32f4x=x=20> > don't think I've seen any with stm32f2xx > Or someone got large inventory to push it to John. F207 is CM3, older des=ign. F4xx is CM4. afaict the F2xx was announced in 2010, the F4xx in 2011, so not much differ= ence
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11.11.21 22:12, LM wrote:>If they stay in stock, life is getting better.Yes, also other sites are showing stock Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if prices go back to normal -- Klaus
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On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote:> 11.11.21 22:12, LM wrote: >> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. > > Yes, also other sites are showing stock > > Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if > prices go back to normal > -- > KlausPandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I think
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On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 6:17:58 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:> On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote: > > 11.11.21 22:12, LM wrote: > >> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. > > > > Yes, also other sites are showing stock > > > > Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if > > prices go back to normal > > -- > > Klaus > Pandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products > realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I think(producer inflation). And workers are receiving too little for their labours (wage inflation) or just too much money around (M1,2,3 inflation) or just (soon to be double digit) inflation.
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 09:17:52 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:>On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote: >> 11.11.21 22:12, LM� wrote: >>> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. >> >> Yes, also other sites are showing stock >> >> Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if >> prices go back to normal >> -- >> Klaus > >Pandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products >realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I thinkRight. And why doesn't a box of Kleenex cost $40? -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
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On 11/13/2021 10:18 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 09:17:52 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote: >>> 11.11.21 22:12, LM wrote: >>>> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. >>> >>> Yes, also other sites are showing stock >>> >>> Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if >>> prices go back to normal >>> -- >>> Klaus >> >> Pandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products >> realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I think > > Right. And why doesn't a box of Kleenex cost $40? > > >More so in the less fungible commodities like you can use toilet paper as Kleenex in a pinch, but you can't use a Chevy as a BMW
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On 11/13/2021 10:18 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 09:17:52 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote: >>> 11.11.21 22:12, LM wrote: >>>> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. >>> >>> Yes, also other sites are showing stock >>> >>> Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if >>> prices go back to normal >>> -- >>> Klaus >> >> Pandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products >> realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I think > > Right. And why doesn't a box of Kleenex cost $40? > > >I get the store brand paper towels for a buck right now, I think in 2019 they were 99 cents
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bitrex <user@example.net> wrote>On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote: >> 11.11.21 22:12, LM� wrote: >>> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. >> >> Yes, also other sites are showing stock >> >> Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if >> prices go back to normal >> -- >> Klaus > >Pandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products >realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I thinkI doubt it; this is just the usual cyclic thing, where a shorateg is artifically created (by various events, which usually merge into the distis telling everybody that x is on allocation, upon which the users shit themselves and multi-order everything they can) and then collapses a year or so later. This will go the same way. I have quite enjoyed designing out parts by Mr Ripoff (Maxim) and replacing them with ST parts, and some TI parts.
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On 11/13/2021 4:09 PM, Peter wrote:> > bitrex <user@example.net> wrote > >> On 11/13/2021 2:09 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote: >>> 11.11.21 22:12, LM wrote: >>>> If they stay in stock, life is getting better. >>> >>> Yes, also other sites are showing stock >>> >>> Maybe we are soon getting back to normal. Will be interesting to see if >>> prices go back to normal >>> -- >>> Klaus >> >> Pandemic shortages made a lot of manufacturers of various products >> realize "ugh we've been selling this stuff way too cheap all along" I think > > I doubt it; this is just the usual cyclic thing, where a shorateg is > artifically created (by various events, which usually merge into the > distis telling everybody that x is on allocation, upon which the users > shit themselves and multi-order everything they can) and then > collapses a year or so later. > > This will go the same way. > > I have quite enjoyed designing out parts by Mr Ripoff (Maxim) and > replacing them with ST parts, and some TI parts. >Herr Ripoff: <https://www.motor1.com/news/532591/mercedes-bmw-keep-prices-high/> "We could lower them again but why"
