Ouch: <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, even singles :(
Horrible lead times on some MOSFETs
Started by ●September 28, 2021
Reply by ●September 28, 20212021-09-28
On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:40:16 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:> Ouch: > > <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> > > A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, > even singles :(just collateral damage for taking out Trump
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT), Brent Locher <blocher@columbus.rr.com> wrote:>On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:40:16 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: >> Ouch: >> >> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> >> >> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, >> even singles :( > >just collateral damage for taking out TrumpWhy do you post on an electronics group ?
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 12:41:07 AM UTC-4, boB wrote:> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT), Brent Locher > <blo...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > >On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 2:40:16 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: > >> Ouch: > >> > >> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> > >> > >> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, > >> even singles :( > > > >just collateral damage for taking out Trump > Why do you post on an electronics group ?Because I am a practicing EE.
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On 9/28/21 11:40 AM, bitrex wrote:> Ouch: > > <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> > > > A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, > even singles :( >Welcome to the new normal. I was yanked out of retirement a couple of weeks ago by clients who suddenly could no longer buy this, that and the other part. Still working on one case. My assumption is that this will continue for another 2-3 years and never quite settle back to the "good old days". Then again, it's often the same with lawn mower parts, toilet paper, ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:43:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:>On 9/28/21 11:40 AM, bitrex wrote: >> Ouch: >> >> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> >> >> >> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, >> even singles :( >> > >Welcome to the new normal. I was yanked out of retirement a couple of >weeks ago by clients who suddenly could no longer buy this, that and the >other part. Still working on one case. > >My assumption is that this will continue for another 2-3 years and never >quite settle back to the "good old days". Then again, it's often the >same with lawn mower parts, toilet paper, ...The pattern is Shortage, real or not. Panic. Multiple over-buying. Ramp up production. Glut. Garages full of toilet paper. The semi industry does this pattern now and then. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On 9/29/21 1:10 PM, John Larkin wrote:> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:43:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> > wrote: > >> On 9/28/21 11:40 AM, bitrex wrote: >>> Ouch: >>> >>> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> >>> >>> >>> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, >>> even singles :( >>> >> >> Welcome to the new normal. I was yanked out of retirement a couple of >> weeks ago by clients who suddenly could no longer buy this, that and the >> other part. Still working on one case. >> >> My assumption is that this will continue for another 2-3 years and never >> quite settle back to the "good old days". Then again, it's often the >> same with lawn mower parts, toilet paper, ... > > The pattern is > > Shortage, real or not. > > Panic. >That and the fear of Bidenflation. Next year the same chip could cost 20% more.> Multiple over-buying. > > Ramp up production. > > Glut. Garages full of toilet paper. >I know a guy who has four (!) bulk packages in his walk-in closet.> The semi industry does this pattern now and then. >This time it's more serious. There are parts my clients need that have the next scheduled delivery in December 2022. And even then there is a substantial risk that they'd get blown out of the water a month before via an "Oh, so sorry" email. Which just happened to one of my clients so I might get to do a redesign of a perfectly fine circuit. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On 9/29/2021 5:18 PM, Joerg wrote:> On 9/29/21 1:10 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:43:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 9/28/21 11:40 AM, bitrex wrote: >>>> Ouch: >>>> >>>> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, >>>> even singles :( >>>> >>> >>> Welcome to the new normal. I was yanked out of retirement a couple of >>> weeks ago by clients who suddenly could no longer buy this, that and the >>> other part. Still working on one case. >>> >>> My assumption is that this will continue for another 2-3 years and never >>> quite settle back to the "good old days". Then again, it's often the >>> same with lawn mower parts, toilet paper, ... >> >> The pattern is >> >> Shortage, real or not. >> >> Panic. >> > > That and the fear of Bidenflation. Next year the same chip could cost > 20% more. > > >> Multiple over-buying. >> >> Ramp up production. >> >> Glut. Garages full of toilet paper. >> > > I know a guy who has four (!) bulk packages in his walk-in closet. > > >> The semi industry does this pattern now and then. >> > > This time it's more serious. There are parts my clients need that have > the next scheduled delivery in December 2022. And even then there is a > substantial risk that they'd get blown out of the water a month before > via an "Oh, so sorry" email. Which just happened to one of my clients so > I might get to do a redesign of a perfectly fine circuit. >I only have 200 ATTiny84s in a box under my bed
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
Joerg wrote:> On 9/29/21 1:10 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:43:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 9/28/21 11:40 AM, bitrex wrote: >>>> Ouch: >>>> >>>> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, >>>> even singles :( >>>> >>> >>> Welcome to the new normal. I was yanked out of retirement a couple of >>> weeks ago by clients who suddenly could no longer buy this, that and the >>> other part. Still working on one case. >>> >>> My assumption is that this will continue for another 2-3 years and never >>> quite settle back to the "good old days". Then again, it's often the >>> same with lawn mower parts, toilet paper, ... >> >> The pattern is >> >> Shortage, real or not. >> >> Panic. >> > > That and the fear of Bidenflation. Next year the same chip could cost > 20% more. > > >> Multiple over-buying. >> >> Ramp up production. >> >> Glut. Garages full of toilet paper. >> > > I know a guy who has four (!) bulk packages in his walk-in closet. > > >> The semi industry does this pattern now and then. >> > > This time it's more serious. There are parts my clients need that have > the next scheduled delivery in December 2022. And even then there is a > substantial risk that they'd get blown out of the water a month before > via an "Oh, so sorry" email. Which just happened to one of my clients so > I might get to do a redesign of a perfectly fine circuit. >Well, it's good to exercise more than your legs. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by ●September 29, 20212021-09-29
On 9/29/21 3:04 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:> Joerg wrote: >> On 9/29/21 1:10 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:43:16 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/28/21 11:40 AM, bitrex wrote: >>>>> Ouch: >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Transistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1yzvta6Z1yrzahtZ1yw78i4&Ns=Pricing%7c0> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A lot of the inexpensive low Vgs high-voltage MOSFETs are like that, >>>>> even singles :( >>>>> >>>> >>>> Welcome to the new normal. I was yanked out of retirement a couple of >>>> weeks ago by clients who suddenly could no longer buy this, that and >>>> the >>>> other part. Still working on one case. >>>> >>>> My assumption is that this will continue for another 2-3 years and >>>> never >>>> quite settle back to the "good old days". Then again, it's often the >>>> same with lawn mower parts, toilet paper, ... >>> >>> The pattern is >>> >>> Shortage, real or not. >>> >>> Panic. >>> >> >> That and the fear of Bidenflation. Next year the same chip could cost >> 20% more. >> >> >>> Multiple over-buying. >>> >>> Ramp up production. >>> >>> Glut. Garages full of toilet paper. >>> >> >> I know a guy who has four (!) bulk packages in his walk-in closet. >> >> >>> The semi industry does this pattern now and then. >>> >> >> This time it's more serious. There are parts my clients need that have >> the next scheduled delivery in December 2022. And even then there is a >> substantial risk that they'd get blown out of the water a month before >> via an "Oh, so sorry" email. Which just happened to one of my clients >> so I might get to do a redesign of a perfectly fine circuit. >> > > Well, it's good to exercise more than your legs. ;) >Yes, but the plan was to invest my brain exercises in my newly rekindled hobby of ham radio. So many ideas, so much stuff to build, but not much time (yet). Bitrex: If you keep those 200 ATTiny you might be able sell them for an ounce of gold in three years :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
