Re: Diode -- pick and place

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 12:11:05 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in 
> news:nc0p6gtbikle25vuf...@4ax.com:
> > On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 08:20:09 -0700 (PDT), mkr5000 
> > <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> >>On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:06:44 AM UTC-4, 
> >>DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: 
> >>> mkr5000 <mike...@gmail.com> wrote in 
> >>> news:c8557e23-95c8-4278...@googlegroups.com: 
> >>> > On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 10:55:42 AM UTC-4, 
> >>> > gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >>> >> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 10:43:18 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote: 
> >>> >> > On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:04:15 PM UTC-4, 
> >>> >> > DecadentLinux...@decadenc 
> >>> > e.org wrote: 
> >>> >> > > Jasen Betts <use...@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote in 
> >>> >> > > news:s4die5$npe$1 @gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org: 
> >>> >> > > > On 2021-04-04, mkr5000 <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> >> > > >> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 5:00:53 PM UTC-4, Jasen 
> >>> >> > > >> Betts wrote: 
> >>> > 
> >>> >> > > >>> On 2021-04-04, mkr5000 <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> >> > > >>> > On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 1:46:11 PM UTC-4, 
> >>> >> > > >>> > mkr5000 wrote: 
> >>> >> > > >>> >> 
> >>> >> > > >>> >> Name,Value,Layer,Pos-X,Pos-Y,Rot,Package 
> >>> >> > > >>> >> R1,1000,Top,521.80mil,787.50mil,90,0805 
> >>> >> > > >>> >> R2,1000,Top,521.80mil,881.25mil,90,0805 
> >>> >> > > >>> >> 
> >>> >> > > >>> >> and it shows it's csv 
> >>> >> > > >>> > that's rejected. 
> >>> >> > > >>> probably the letters in the numerical columns 
> >>> >> > > >>> 
> >>> >> > > >>> -- 
> >>> >> > > >>> Jasen. 
> >>> >> > > >> Jasen, I don't follow. ? 
> >>> >> > > > 
> >>> >> > > > Try "521.80" instead of "521.80mil" 
> >>> >> > > > 
> >>> >> > > > 
> >>> >> > > > 
> >>> >> > > Yes... a numerical column should only have numerics in 
> >>> >> > > it. Put the UOM (Units of Measure) at the top of the 
> >>> >> > > column or use a lege 
> >>> > nd 
> >>> >> > > to define the columns. 
> >>> >> > Reply from JLCPB -- 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > "Hi there, 
> >>> >> > Thank you for your email. 
> >>> >> > After checked that the format is not like the one of our 
> >>> >> > sample file . 
> >>> > 
> >>> >> > So our system can not detect it easily . 
> >>> >> > Hope you can understand it . 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Attached is the CPL sample file for your reference. 
> >>> >> > Would you like to take a look and follow our sample file to 
> >>> >> > make your C 
> >>> > PL file?? 
> >>> >> > in this way,our system can detect your file successfully. 
> >>> >> > Thank you ." 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Haven't tried it yet but it has to be EXACTLY like their 
> >>> >> > sample file? 
> >>> > 
> >>> >> > Designator X Y Layer Rotation 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > it has just those 5 in that order. 
> >>> >> > this whole process is crazy. 
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > I guess you have to adjust the cpl file for each pcb house? 
> >>> >> > ! You would think the software could see the file (like 
> >>> >> > mine above) and m 
> >>> > odify it. 
> >>> >> What is crazy about them specifying the file format and you 
> >>> >> not following 
> >>> > it??? Oh, I know... the part about you not following it!! 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> What is wrong with just giving them what they ask for??? 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> YES, you have to provide what each fab house wants. If you go 
> >>> >> with a US f 
> >>> > ab house that charges twice as much they will probably work 
> >>> > with what you give them. That's one of the reasons they charge 
> >>> > more. To provide rock bottom prices the cheap places have to 
> >>> > automate the design input and you have to accommodate them. 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> This is all simple and obvious if you give it a bit of 
> >>> >> thought. 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> -- 
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Rick C. 
> >>> >> 
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> >>> > YES, you have to provide what each fab house wants. 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Well, live and learn right? This is my first assy order. I was 
> >>> > dreading having to rewrite the file(s) that my software 
> >>> > outputs. I could write some python code that would easily 
> >>> > reconfigure the file for what they want you would think they 
> >>> > may have dome that themselves. I mean what does it take to 
> >>> > identify "R1" and "X" or "Y" etc.? 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Just sort of assumed it would be a smoother process without 
> >>> > bumps in the road. 
> >>> Life is one big, long, bumpy road. That's why I ride motocross! 
> >>> 
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> >> 
> >>message from jlc -- 
> >>Hi sir or madam, 
> >> 
> >>Oh i see. 
> >> 
> >>Would you mind to send your gerber file and BOM file so that i can 
> >>try to upload in our website ?? (no issues there) 
> >> 
> >>Also,would you mind to generate your coordinate with mm ?? 
> >> 
> >>In this way,our system can recognize it easily . 
> >> 
> >>Thank you . 
> >> 
> >>In Chinese, that probably means we NEED mm but of course, they 
> >>don't say that. My senior citizen brain likes mil. 
> > 
> > We had one Taiwanese company do us a custom extrusion, cut to 
> > length and anodized and tapped. They can't do a 4-40 tap! So we do 
> > that part ourselves. 
> >
> No way! It is so common in the industry! You could have SEMS 
> inserts pressed in (or is it PEMS?).
I've given up on this bullshit.
Got my csv file to go through and the very first board has just 2 resistors and a 2 channel optocoupler on it. 
It shows "unselected" parts so I gather it has to be something specific in their library.

Searched LTV-826S (which is what I want and common). No results.
So then, searched "optocouplers" and it comes back with 1800 results including LED's and other crap and no apparent search result filters. 

I'll try pcbway and see if it's any different. This JLC is a pain in the ass.