bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >> >>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. >>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast >>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond >>> logic threshold BEFORE input. >> >> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline > > Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. >Yes, i remember the book. He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. I am talking about science FACT. Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay".
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Reply by ●October 12, 20182018-10-12
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote:> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: > >> > >>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. > >>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast > >>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond > >>> logic threshold BEFORE input. > >> > >> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline > > > > Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. > > > Yes, I remember the book.You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. > I am talking about science FACT.That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters.> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay".He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●October 12, 20182018-10-12
On Friday, 12 October 2018 06:04:34 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote:> tabbypurr wrote: > > On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: > > > >> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. > >> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast > >> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond > >> logic threshold BEFORE input. > > > > What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) > > > > > > NT > > > Did i not say "what LOOKS like negative time delay"?Oi, stop getting all facty. NT
Reply by ●October 14, 20182018-10-14
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: >> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >>>> >>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. >>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast >>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond >>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. >>>> >>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline >>> >>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. >>> >> Yes, I remember the book. > > You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction"* And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK.> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact > >> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. >> I am talking about science FACT. > > That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. > >> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". > > He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this.* I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said. Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent negative time delay.>
Reply by ●October 14, 20182018-10-14
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 4:29:36 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote:> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: > >> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. > >>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast > >>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond > >>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. > >>>> > >>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) > >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline > >>> > >>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. > >>> > >> Yes, I remember the book. > > > > You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" > * And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK. > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact > > > >> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. > >> I am talking about science FACT. > > > > That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. > > > >> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". > > > > He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. > > * I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said.Reading is one thing. Comprehending the non-thinking going on is another.> Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. > Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent > negative time delay.Only if you have absolutely no insight into what is going on. Read up on "constant fraction discriminators" sometime. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●October 14, 20182018-10-14
On Sunday, 14 October 2018 06:29:36 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote:> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: > >> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. > >>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast > >>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond > >>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. > >>>> > >>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) > >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline > >>> > >>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. > >>> > >> Yes, I remember the book. > > > > You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" > * And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK. > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact > > > >> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. > >> I am talking about science FACT. > > > > That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. > > > >> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". > > > > He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. > * I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said. > Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. > Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent > negative time delay.Save yourself the time. He'll never get real. NT
Reply by ●October 14, 20182018-10-14
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 10:31:32 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:> On Sunday, 14 October 2018 06:29:36 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: > > bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: > > >> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > >>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote: > > >>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. > > >>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast > > >>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond > > >>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. > > >>>> > > >>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) > > >>> > > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline > > >>> > > >>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. > > >>> > > >> Yes, I remember the book. > > > > > > You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" > > * And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK. > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact > > > > > >> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. > > >> I am talking about science FACT. > > > > > > That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. > > > > > >> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". > > > > > > He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. > > * I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said. > > Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. > > Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent > > negative time delay. > > Save yourself the time. He'll never get real.Amusing. NT believes all kinds of nonsense, so his idea of "real" is in the same league with krw and Cursitor Doom. Robert Baer is just dim, so it's actually a different problem. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●October 15, 20182018-10-15
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:> On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 4:29:36 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: >> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: >>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. >>>>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast >>>>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond >>>>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. >>>>>> >>>>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline >>>>> >>>>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. >>>>> >>>> Yes, I remember the book. >>> >>> You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" >> * And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK. >> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact >>> >>>> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. >>>> I am talking about science FACT. >>> >>> That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. >>> >>>> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". >>> >>> He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. >> >> * I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said. > > Reading is one thing. Comprehending the non-thinking going on is another. > >> Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. >> Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent >> negative time delay. > > Only if you have absolutely no insight into what is going on.* I know exactly what happens and why.> > Read up on "constant fraction discriminators" sometime.* Has nothing to with "my" circuit.>
Reply by ●October 15, 20182018-10-15
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:> On Sunday, 14 October 2018 06:29:36 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: >>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. >>>>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast >>>>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond >>>>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. >>>>>> >>>>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline >>>>> >>>>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. >>>>> >>>> Yes, I remember the book. >>> >>> You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" >> * And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK. >> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact >>> >>>> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. >>>> I am talking about science FACT. >>> >>> That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. >>> >>>> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". >>> >>> He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. >> * I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said. >> Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. >> Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent >> negative time delay. > > Save yourself the time. He'll never get real. > > > NT >Thanks.
Reply by ●October 15, 20182018-10-15
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:> On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 10:31:32 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sunday, 14 October 2018 06:29:36 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>>> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:06:38 PM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: >>>>> bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:03:01 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:38:16 UTC+1, Robert Baer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In certain cases, one can achieve what LOOKS like negative time delay. >>>>>>>> Input pulse has a (relatively) slow rise time, and feeds a fast >>>>>>>> op-amp set to sense low threshold of the rise...output pops up beyond >>>>>>>> logic threshold BEFORE input. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What would happen if a computer were built of negative time delay gates? The output would appear before the input occurred. Since the input would sometimes be undecided when the output occurred, the output would determine the input. So take a standard computer, swap labels on inputs & outputs, and there you have it, a faster than light future predicting computer. In fact the slower it is, the faster it is :) >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline >>>>>> >>>>>> Isaac Asimov invented it in 1947, and published his first paper on it in 1948. >>>>>> >>>>> Yes, I remember the book. >>>> >>>> You don't. All three items were originally published in "Astounding Science Fiction" which is a periodical (now called "Analog Science Fact and Fiction" >>> * And THEN it was published and printed in a BOOK. >>> >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Science_Fiction_and_Fact >>>> >>>>> He takes all of the credit in Science FICTION. >>>>> I am talking about science FACT. >>>> >>>> That is Robert Baer's deluded opinion. He is about a reliable at distinguishing fact from fiction as Cursitor Doom, and what he knows about science could be written on the head of pin in large letters. >>>> >>>>> Remember, "what LOOKS like negative time delay". >>>> >>>> He can't even back-track gracefully. It was a moronic interjection, and he's silly enough not to realise this. >>> * I guess you cannot READ; NO back-tracking, that is exactly what said. >>> Perhaps you think i said there was a negative time delay. >>> Build the circuit as described, and see for yourself..an apparent >>> negative time delay. >> >> Save yourself the time. He'll never get real. > > Amusing. NT believes all kinds of nonsense, so his idea of "real" is in the same league with krw and Cursitor Doom. Robert Baer is just dim, so it's actually a different problem. >Are you not dee LIGHTful?
