On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:>On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let friends use >>>>>>> Maxim." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the best >>>>>>> Maxim parts >>>>>> >>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s are >>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found that the >>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >>>>> didn't >>>>> bear much relation to reality. >>>>> >>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be OK, >>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >>>> >>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >>>> >>>> reset >>>> count up >>>> >>> >>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >>> >> >> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs >> > >Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln?We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named her Penny. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
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On 02/17/2017 12:44 PM, John Larkin wrote:> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex > <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > >> On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >>>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >>>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >>>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >>>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >>>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >>>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >>>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >>>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >>>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >>>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >>>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >>>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >>>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >>>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >>>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >>>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let friends use >>>>>>>> Maxim." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the best >>>>>>>> Maxim parts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s are >>>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >>>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found that the >>>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >>>>>> didn't >>>>>> bear much relation to reality. >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be OK, >>>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >>>>> >>>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >>>>> >>>>> reset >>>>> count up >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >>>> >>> >>> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >>> >> >> Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? > > We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named > her Penny. >Kid names are hard because if you go with the Biblical standards these days you're thought to be uncreative and low-effort, while if you go hipster whack-out you're thought to be attention-seeking and "tryhard", and your kid is going to change it anyway after you name him "Corvid" and a decade of being called "Corbin Dallas Multipass" by his peers. Preteens are very creative at thinking up unflattering nicknames. "Penny" seems like a reasonable compromise. "Benny"? "Fenny"? I don't know, I got nothin'.
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On 02/17/2017 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:> On 02/17/2017 12:44 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex >> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >>>>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >>>>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >>>>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >>>>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >>>>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >>>>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >>>>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >>>>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >>>>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >>>>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >>>>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >>>>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >>>>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >>>>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >>>>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let >>>>>>>>> friends use >>>>>>>>> Maxim." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the >>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>> Maxim parts >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >>>>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found >>>>>>> that the >>>>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>> bear much relation to reality. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be >>>>>>> OK, >>>>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >>>>>> >>>>>> reset >>>>>> count up >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >>>>> >>>> >>>> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Phil Hobbs >>>> >>> >>> Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? >> >> We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named >> her Penny. >> > > Kid names are hard because if you go with the Biblical standards these > days you're thought to be uncreative and low-effort, while if you go > hipster whack-out you're thought to be attention-seeking and "tryhard", > and your kid is going to change it anyway after you name him "Corvid" > and a decade of being called "Corbin Dallas Multipass" by his peers. > > Preteens are very creative at thinking up unflattering nicknames. > > "Penny" seems like a reasonable compromise. "Benny"? "Fenny"? I don't > know, I got nothin'. >Oops, wait..."Penny Dreadful." Oh dear.
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On 17/02/17 17:35, bitrex wrote:> Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln?My mother was strongly influenced by someone that could have, since that person was born sometime around 1830-1840. (Mother born 1921, other person was almost a centenarian, dying when my mother was ~10yo. Lazarus Long territory).
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On 02/17/2017 12:35 PM, bitrex wrote:> On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let friends >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> Maxim." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the best >>>>>>> Maxim parts >>>>>> >>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s are >>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found that >>>>> the >>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >>>>> didn't >>>>> bear much relation to reality. >>>>> >>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be OK, >>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >>>> >>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >>>> >>>> reset >>>> count up >>>> >>> >>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >>> >> >> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs >> > > Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? > > (my friends in their 20s use that one on me a lot and I don't get a > chance to return the favor much. What's Usenet? Is that like Tinder?)You're much less likely to catch something on Usenet, by all accounts. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:53:14 -0500, bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:>On 02/17/2017 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote: >> On 02/17/2017 12:44 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex >>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >>>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >>>>>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >>>>>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >>>>>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >>>>>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >>>>>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >>>>>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >>>>>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >>>>>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >>>>>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >>>>>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >>>>>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >>>>>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >>>>>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >>>>>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >>>>>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let >>>>>>>>>> friends use >>>>>>>>>> Maxim." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the >>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>> Maxim parts >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >>>>>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found >>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>> bear much relation to reality. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be >>>>>>>> OK, >>>>>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >>>>>>> >>>>>>> reset >>>>>>> count up >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>> >>>> Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? >>> >>> We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named >>> her Penny. >>> >> >> Kid names are hard because if you go with the Biblical standards these >> days you're thought to be uncreative and low-effort, while if you go >> hipster whack-out you're thought to be attention-seeking and "tryhard", >> and your kid is going to change it anyway after you name him "Corvid" >> and a decade of being called "Corbin Dallas Multipass" by his peers. >> >> Preteens are very creative at thinking up unflattering nicknames. >> >> "Penny" seems like a reasonable compromise. "Benny"? "Fenny"? I don't >> know, I got nothin'. >> > >Oops, wait..."Penny Dreadful." Oh dear.We named The Brat with three San Francisco street names. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 3:29:21 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:53:14 -0500, bitrex > <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > > >On 02/17/2017 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote: > >> On 02/17/2017 12:44 PM, John Larkin wrote: > >>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex > >>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: > >>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: > >>>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex > >>>>>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, > >>>>>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 > >>>>>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them > >>>>>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. > >>>>>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input > >>>>>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even > >>>>>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I > >>>>>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this > >>>>>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some > >>>>>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in > >>>>>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't > >>>>>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers > >>>>>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, > >>>>>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance > >>>>>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let > >>>>>>>>>> friends use > >>>>>>>>>> Maxim." > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the > >>>>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>>>> Maxim parts > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles > >>>>>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found > >>>>>>>> that the > >>>>>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI > >>>>>>>> didn't > >>>>>>>> bear much relation to reality. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be > >>>>>>>> OK, > >>>>>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> reset > >>>>>>> count up > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> > >>>>> Phil Hobbs > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? > >>> > >>> We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named > >>> her Penny. > >>> > >> > >> Kid names are hard because if you go with the Biblical standards these > >> days you're thought to be uncreative and low-effort, while if you go > >> hipster whack-out you're thought to be attention-seeking and "tryhard", > >> and your kid is going to change it anyway after you name him "Corvid" > >> and a decade of being called "Corbin Dallas Multipass" by his peers. > >> > >> Preteens are very creative at thinking up unflattering nicknames. > >> > >> "Penny" seems like a reasonable compromise. "Benny"? "Fenny"? I don't > >> know, I got nothin'. > >> > > > >Oops, wait..."Penny Dreadful." Oh dear. > > We named The Brat with three San Francisco street names. > > > -- > > John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc > picosecond timing precision measurement > > jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com > http://www.highlandtechnology.comMy daughter is named after a favorite Aunt.. Hey, as long as we are off topic, check out the Queen this years Arcade Winter fest. http://www.mywnynews.com/arcade_warsaw/article_a6a655ec-f489-11e6-b064-efeb20184330.html (The cute kid in the pale blue dress.) George H.
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 06:50:00 +1100, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> wrote:>On 18/02/17 04:53, bitrex wrote: >> On 02/17/2017 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> On 02/17/2017 12:44 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>> Preteens are very creative at thinking up unflattering nicknames. >>> "Penny" seems like a reasonable compromise. "Benny"? "Fenny"? I don't >>> know, I got nothin'. >> Oops, wait..."Penny Dreadful." Oh dear. > >My sister Penelope (aka Penny) was best friends in college with another >Penny... Together, they were... > >Twopence.Agatha Christie wrote a few Tommy and Tuppence mysteries. I didn't like them. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:10:38 -0800 (PST), George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:>On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 3:29:21 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:53:14 -0500, bitrex >> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >On 02/17/2017 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote: >> >> On 02/17/2017 12:44 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex >> >>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >> >>>>>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >> >>>>>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >> >>>>>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >> >>>>>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >> >>>>>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >> >>>>>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >> >>>>>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >> >>>>>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >> >>>>>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >> >>>>>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >> >>>>>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >> >>>>>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >> >>>>>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >> >>>>>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >> >>>>>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let >> >>>>>>>>>> friends use >> >>>>>>>>>> Maxim." >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the >> >>>>>>>>>> best >> >>>>>>>>>> Maxim parts >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s >> >>>>>>>>> are >> >>>>>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >> >>>>>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found >> >>>>>>>> that the >> >>>>>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >> >>>>>>>> didn't >> >>>>>>>> bear much relation to reality. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be >> >>>>>>>> OK, >> >>>>>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> reset >> >>>>>>> count up >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Cheers >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? >> >>> >> >>> We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named >> >>> her Penny. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Kid names are hard because if you go with the Biblical standards these >> >> days you're thought to be uncreative and low-effort, while if you go >> >> hipster whack-out you're thought to be attention-seeking and "tryhard", >> >> and your kid is going to change it anyway after you name him "Corvid" >> >> and a decade of being called "Corbin Dallas Multipass" by his peers. >> >> >> >> Preteens are very creative at thinking up unflattering nicknames. >> >> >> >> "Penny" seems like a reasonable compromise. "Benny"? "Fenny"? I don't >> >> know, I got nothin'. >> >> >> > >> >Oops, wait..."Penny Dreadful." Oh dear. >> >> We named The Brat with three San Francisco street names. >> >> >> -- >> >> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc >> picosecond timing precision measurement >> >> jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com >> http://www.highlandtechnology.com > >My daughter is named after a favorite Aunt.. Hey, as long as we are off topic, >check out the Queen this years Arcade Winter fest. >http://www.mywnynews.com/arcade_warsaw/article_a6a655ec-f489-11e6-b064-efeb20184330.html > >(The cute kid in the pale blue dress.) > >George H.Cute. Do you belong to her? -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:44:51 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:>On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:35:04 -0500, bitrex ><bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > >>On 02/16/2017 07:33 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, bitrex wrote: >>>> On 02/16/2017 03:25 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:42:34 -0500, bitrex >>>>> <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:33 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7, bitrex wrote: >>>>>>>> On 02/16/2017 11:15 AM, DemonicTubes wrote: >>>>>>>>> Does anybody here have experience with MAX4208/MAX4209? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Current project is going to need an instrumentation amplifier, >>>>>>>>> looking at my inventory all I have is some through hole INA111 >>>>>>>>> that still have Burr-Brown stamped on them (probably bought them >>>>>>>>> in the mid 90s)...time to upgrade my stock! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I go see what's new I find the Maxim MAX4208 and MAX4209. >>>>>>>>> Normally there seems to be a trade off between V and I input >>>>>>>>> offsets, but these chips have good values for both. I even >>>>>>>>> noticed the MAX4209 is in the table in AoE 3rd Ed. page 363 (I >>>>>>>>> also just noticed John Larkin is mentioned by name in this >>>>>>>>> chapter). This chip is much cheaper than the others and has some >>>>>>>>> of the best specs...what am I missing? I have had colleagues in >>>>>>>>> the past recommend not designing in Maxim chips, but I can't >>>>>>>>> remember why. I've only ever used their 232 and 485 transceivers >>>>>>>>> (and they have been very reliable). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anybody want to talk me out of using this chip? And if so, >>>>>>>>> recommend an alternative? I'm hoping for similar performance >>>>>>>>> under $4 in quantities of 1000. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe there's a saying in this NG: "Friends don't let friends use >>>>>>>> Maxim." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Were the 232 transceivers from Texas Instruments? They make the best >>>>>>>> Maxim parts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is too funny, you just made me check my stock. The MAX232s are >>>>>>> indeed TI parts! The MAX483s are, however, Maxim. What troubles >>>>>>> have you had with Maxim parts? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> They bought up a bunch of Dallas parts and as I recall I found that the >>>>>> way their datasheet said you're supposed to talk to them over SPI >>>>>> didn't >>>>>> bear much relation to reality. >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't really used any of their purely analog stuff, it may be OK, >>>>>> but I'm leery of getting anything that a uP needs to talk to... >>>>> >>>>> Maxim makes a digital capacitor. The 2-pin interface is >>>>> >>>>> reset >>>>> count up >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hopefully it also has two outputs, CAPACITOR and NOT_CAPACITOR >>>> >>> >>> You're so modern. BITD it would have been SIGNAL and OUTSIDE FOIL. ;) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >>> >> >>Tell us more about the old days, Pops! You ever meet Abraham Lincoln? > >We have a friend who just had a baby on Lincoln's Birthday. They named >her Penny.Hmm, they didn't name her One Cent?
