On 10/10/2012 07:15, Robert Baer wrote:> Grant wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:01:42 -0800, Robert >> Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >> >>> Grant wrote: >>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:38:02 -0800, Robert >>>> Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I go to http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ ans download >>>>> LTspiceIV.exe, then install it. >>>>> Impossible to update; get error message that 'Could not read web >>>>> file: "http://LTspice.linear-tech.com/fieldsync/release.log.gz". >>>>> That file, if downloaded and applied, crashes with the error >>>>> "Fatal >>>>> Error: Trouble converting to curly brace notation: >>>>> Mismatched single quotes in" [[binary after ASCII part]]. >>>>> >>>>> So, now what?? >>>> >>>> Uninstall LTSpice and start over. To apply update start LTSpice with >>>> right-click -> Run as administrator, then Tools -> Sync Release. >>>> >>>> It works on win7. >>>> >>>> Grant. >>> Uninstall and re-install dew gnott hellp. >>> >>> Nope; get menu Open / scan with Avast! / Send to / Cut / Copy / >>> create shortcut / delete / rename / Properties . >>> >>> Not using Win 7; using Win2K. >> >> Why you stay back in dark ages of win2k? >> >>> Last time i had this problem i found the URL was incorrect; it was >>> ../fieldsync2/.. where at that time the ../fieldsync/.. URL was 404. >>> They must have fixed that problem because the URL does have the .GZ >>> file (and the ../fieldsync2/.. is 404). >> >> I really think you ought to catch up to decent windows OS :) >> >> Grant. > The OS has nothing to do with the bad URLs or bad .GZ files. > > Win7 release has removed many useful features that Win2K (or even > WinXP which was more stunted than Win2K) had.I can't offhand think of anything you could do on Win2k that you could not also do on WinXP more reliably. The latter was very much more stable and became and still is an industrial/corporate standard. Mickeysoft had to provide XP compatibility in Win7 to get corporate users to even consider upgrading. There are a few quirks with legacy software (mostly drivers but some installers) on Win7 esp 64 bit.> You CANNOT search for files with a given text. > You WILL NOT find all files with a given search parameter; you may be > lucky to find one or two and the chances of finding the file that you > damn well know exists, is virtually ZERO.That is down to your mistakes and clueless user error. I doubt if any modern software distributions are tested to install on anything earlier than WinXP so you are on your own with Win2k.> You have to toss all older programs and _buy_ new versions that are > so crappy and/or different that you would be better off learning the > language of the sand lizards of Alpha Centauri.The only things that do drop off is support for ancient and not quite so ancient peripherals which can be annoying. Most applications will run fine on most later versions of windows. I still have some Win95 programs that run perfectly happily on Win7. The odd legacy program needs careful handling where long filename defaults are concerned. Have you considered writing a travelogue based on your experiences with the sand lizards of Alpha Centauri - it could be a best seller.> You have absolutely ZERO control as to which processes will run in > the background and AFAIK cannot even kill a process if something goes > tits up.You evidently don't know very much then.> Undesirable processes (ie should be disabled): Messenger, Alerter, > Clipbook, Distributed Link Tracking Client, Distributed Transaction > Coordinator, Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing, Routing and Remote > Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, Telnet, and if do not have UPS or > UPS has no computer link), disable Uninterruptible Power Supply. > Perhaps disable Wireless Configuration,if hardwired Ethernet.You can choose what runs and what doesn't. The method of doing this in Windows is clumsy but it is provided. -- Regards, Martin Brown
LTspive IV probs
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Reply by ●October 11, 20122012-10-11
On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:42:36 +1100, Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> wrote:>On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:01:42 -0800, Robert Baer =<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:> >>Grant wrote: >>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:38:02 -0800, Robert =Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:>>> >>>> I go to http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ ans download >>>> LTspiceIV.exe, then install it. >>>> Impossible to update; get error message that 'Could not read web >>>> file: "http://LTspice.linear-tech.com/fieldsync/release.log.gz". >>>> That file, if downloaded and applied, crashes with the error ="Fatal>>>> Error: Trouble converting to curly brace notation: >>>> Mismatched single quotes in" [[binary after ASCII part]]. >>>> >>>> So, now what?? >>> >>> Uninstall LTSpice and start over. To apply update start LTSpice with >>> right-click -> Run as administrator, then Tools -> Sync Release. >>> >>> It works on win7. >>> >>> Grant. >> Uninstall and re-install dew gnott hellp. >> >> Nope; get menu Open / scan with Avast! / Send to / Cut / Copy /=20 >>create shortcut / delete / rename / Properties . >> >> Not using Win 7; using Win2K. > >Why you stay back in dark ages of win2k? > >> Last time i had this problem i found the URL was incorrect; it was=20 >>../fieldsync2/.. where at that time the ../fieldsync/.. URL was 404. >> They must have fixed that problem because the URL does have the .GZ=20 >>file (and the ../fieldsync2/.. is 404). > >I really think you ought to catch up to decent windows OS :) > >Grant.I think OP is having serious download problems. I run LTSpice in several different versions of wine under different versions of linux and it works just fine, including updates. I can even get it to run in Win98 native. ?-)
Reply by ●October 11, 20122012-10-11
On 11/10/2012 05:13, josephkk wrote:> On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:42:36 +1100, Grant <omg@grrr.id.au> wrote: > >> On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:01:42 -0800, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >> >>> Grant wrote: >>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:38:02 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I go to http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ ans download >>>>> LTspiceIV.exe, then install it. >>>>> Impossible to update; get error message that 'Could not read web >>>>> file: "http://LTspice.linear-tech.com/fieldsync/release.log.gz". >>>>> That file, if downloaded and applied, crashes with the error "Fatal >>>>> Error: Trouble converting to curly brace notation: >>>>> Mismatched single quotes in" [[binary after ASCII part]]. >>>>> >>>>> So, now what?? >>>> >>>> Uninstall LTSpice and start over. To apply update start LTSpice with >>>> right-click -> Run as administrator, then Tools -> Sync Release. >>>> >>>> It works on win7. >>>> >>>> Grant. >>> Uninstall and re-install dew gnott hellp. >>> >>> Nope; get menu Open / scan with Avast! / Send to / Cut / Copy / >>> create shortcut / delete / rename / Properties . >>> >>> Not using Win 7; using Win2K. >> >> Why you stay back in dark ages of win2k? >> >>> Last time i had this problem i found the URL was incorrect; it was >>> ../fieldsync2/.. where at that time the ../fieldsync/.. URL was 404. >>> They must have fixed that problem because the URL does have the .GZ >>> file (and the ../fieldsync2/.. is 404). >> >> I really think you ought to catch up to decent windows OS :) >> >> Grant. > > I think OP is having serious download problems. I run LTSpice in several > different versions of wine under different versions of linux and it works > just fine, including updates. I can even get it to run in Win98 native. > > ?-)Win2k might just be the exception. Is he still on wet string with a modem that cannot do 33k reliably? Is there a published MD5 digest or CRC32 for the download he is having trouble with? That would confirm that the download is corrupt. Usually ZIP files test their self integrity well enough that you don't have bother. I have only once seen a bad self extracting ZIP file that ran for quite a while before finding a piece that was bad (and that was on a genuinely defective installer disk for a product). Not sure how well gz self integrity checks perform in practice but I have yet to see one fail. -- Regards, Martin Brown
Reply by ●October 11, 20122012-10-11
John Devereux wrote:> Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> writes: > >> John Devereux wrote: >>> Grant<omg@grrr.id.au> writes: >>> >>>> On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:01:42 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Grant wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:38:02 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I go to http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ ans download >>>>>>> LTspiceIV.exe, then install it. >>>>>>> Impossible to update; get error message that 'Could not read web >>>>>>> file: "http://LTspice.linear-tech.com/fieldsync/release.log.gz". >>>>>>> That file, if downloaded and applied, crashes with the error "Fatal >>>>>>> Error: Trouble converting to curly brace notation: >>>>>>> Mismatched single quotes in" [[binary after ASCII part]]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, now what?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Uninstall LTSpice and start over. To apply update start LTSpice with >>>>>> right-click -> Run as administrator, then Tools -> Sync Release. >>>>>> >>>>>> It works on win7. >>>>>> >>>>>> Grant. >>>>> Uninstall and re-install dew gnott hellp. >>>>> >>>>> Nope; get menu Open / scan with Avast! / Send to / Cut / Copy / >>>>> create shortcut / delete / rename / Properties . >>>>> >>>>> Not using Win 7; using Win2K. >>>> >>>> Why you stay back in dark ages of win2k? >>> >>> Hey, he was on Windows 98 for the last 10 years IIRC, he must have just >>> upgraded! >>> >>>> >>>>> Last time i had this problem i found the URL was incorrect; it was >>>>> ../fieldsync2/.. where at that time the ../fieldsync/.. URL was 404. >>>>> They must have fixed that problem because the URL does have the .GZ >>>>> file (and the ../fieldsync2/.. is 404). >>>> >>>> I really think you ought to catch up to decent windows OS :) >>>> >>>> Grant. >>> >> Harumph!! >> That was Win98SE, i will have you know! > > :) > >> ** >> Win2K gives the user the most control of processes, ability to >> search for files (AND FIND THEM..which Win7 does not find but one in >> 10-15), etc. >> One does not have to buy all new programs - a number of which are so >> different as to be like Greek written in Chinese. > > I suspect that using windows 2k now will be a constant battle if you > ever intend to install any modern software, it has dropped off everyones > roadmap. > > XP is almost as old but still enjoys some vendor support since there are > many companies still using it. Vista is a dog but 7 is OK IMO. > > Pretty sure you can in fact search by file content in 7, though not > something I use. For sure there are "desktop search" programs which do > this, as well as search emails. >Win2K has as a part of its search capability to search by name, drive, included text, and date range or ANY combo. Win7 as far as i was able to use was search by file name ONLY and it DID NOT find the 2 files i damn well knew was on the drive (just forgot where); it found ONLY TWO other files out of a total 20-22 that (after i found them) were obvious matches to the given criteria. I proved that by re-booting to Win2K and doing the SAME search on the same drive with the same parameters. So, it seems by your response,one must BUY an extra program - one that WRT Win7's dim past, was not needed.
Reply by ●October 11, 20122012-10-11
MrTallyman wrote:> On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:15:10 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> > wrote: > >> Grant wrote: >>> On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:01:42 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Grant wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 02:38:02 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I go to http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ ans download >>>>>> LTspiceIV.exe, then install it. >>>>>> Impossible to update; get error message that 'Could not read web >>>>>> file: "http://LTspice.linear-tech.com/fieldsync/release.log.gz". >>>>>> That file, if downloaded and applied, crashes with the error "Fatal >>>>>> Error: Trouble converting to curly brace notation: >>>>>> Mismatched single quotes in" [[binary after ASCII part]]. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, now what?? >>>>> >>>>> Uninstall LTSpice and start over. To apply update start LTSpice with >>>>> right-click -> Run as administrator, then Tools -> Sync Release. >>>>> >>>>> It works on win7. >>>>> >>>>> Grant. >>>> Uninstall and re-install dew gnott hellp. >>>> >>>> Nope; get menu Open / scan with Avast! / Send to / Cut / Copy / >>>> create shortcut / delete / rename / Properties . >>>> >>>> Not using Win 7; using Win2K. >>> >>> Why you stay back in dark ages of win2k? >>> >>>> Last time i had this problem i found the URL was incorrect; it was >>>> ../fieldsync2/.. where at that time the ../fieldsync/.. URL was 404. >>>> They must have fixed that problem because the URL does have the .GZ >>>> file (and the ../fieldsync2/.. is 404). >>> >>> I really think you ought to catch up to decent windows OS :) >>> >>> Grant. >> The OS has nothing to do with the bad URLs or bad .GZ files. >> >> Win7 release has removed many useful features that Win2K (or even >> WinXP which was more stunted than Win2K) had. >> You CANNOT search for files with a given text. >> You WILL NOT find all files with a given search parameter; you may be >> lucky to find one or two and the chances of finding the file that you >> damn well know exists, is virtually ZERO. >> You have to toss all older programs and _buy_ new versions that are >> so crappy and/or different that you would be better off learning the >> language of the sand lizards of Alpha Centauri. >> >> You have absolutely ZERO control as to which processes will run in >> the background and AFAIK cannot even kill a process if something goes >> tits up. >> Undesirable processes (ie should be disabled): Messenger, Alerter, >> Clipbook, Distributed Link Tracking Client, Distributed Transaction >> Coordinator, Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing, Routing and Remote >> Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, Telnet, and if do not have UPS or >> UPS has no computer link), disable Uninterruptible Power Supply. >> Perhaps disable Wireless Configuration,if hardwired Ethernet. > > You are an absolute idiot. > > You CAN search for individual file names, dork. AND it WILL find all > instances.* YOU are the idiot; i had ALREADY said that one could search by file name. You are purposely IGNORING that the (ASCII) contents cannot be used for search. And from my experience,i say you lie; there were about 20 or so files that matched the filename criteria and ONLY TWO of them were found.> > You DO have control over processes, it is called Task Manager, and > never went anywhere.* Can you disable: Alerter, Messenger, Distrubited Link Tracking Client, Distributed Transaction Coordinator, NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing, Routing and Remote Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, and almost a half a dozen others that most people do not use or want? Task Manager DOES NOT have control over those i listed; there are about 50 of those i CAN control in Win2K.> > You do NOT have to "toss all older programs and buy new versions"* Really? Then how come that _something_ always complains that you MUST "upgrade"??> > Fucking retards like you are what need to be "tossed". > > And a Centaurian Sand Lizard is 500 times more intelligent than you are > as well.
Reply by ●October 11, 20122012-10-11
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:24:04 -0800 Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in Message id: <Duuds.11871$vv4.9476@newsfe02.iad>:>MrTallyman wrote:[...] AlwaysWrong being AlwaysWrong.>* YOU are the idiot; i had ALREADY said that one could search by file name. > You are purposely IGNORING that the (ASCII) contents cannot be used >for search. > And from my experience,i say you lie; there were about 20 or so files >that matched the filename criteria and ONLY TWO of them were found.You are correct. Even XP is pretty lame and misses stuff. I gave up on the explorer shell and use Xplorer2. It's pretty reasonably priced at $30 and quite powerful.>> You DO have control over processes, it is called Task Manager, and >> never went anywhere. >* Can you disable: Alerter, Messenger, Distrubited Link Tracking >Client, Distributed Transaction Coordinator, NetMeeting Remote Desktop >Sharing, Routing and Remote Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, and >almost a half a dozen others that most people do not use or want? > Task Manager DOES NOT have control over those i listed; there are >about 50 of those i CAN control in Win2K.Right click on "My computer" and select manage. It's in there.
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:29:38 -0400 JW <none@dev.null> wrote in Message id: <d4pd78lc0h68222o472ofkago9jti6rooa@4ax.com>:>On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:24:04 -0800 Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> >wrote in Message id: <Duuds.11871$vv4.9476@newsfe02.iad>: > >>MrTallyman wrote: > >[...] AlwaysWrong being AlwaysWrong. > >>* YOU are the idiot; i had ALREADY said that one could search by file name. >> You are purposely IGNORING that the (ASCII) contents cannot be used >>for search. >> And from my experience,i say you lie; there were about 20 or so files >>that matched the filename criteria and ONLY TWO of them were found. > >You are correct. Even XP is pretty lame and misses stuff. I gave up on the >explorer shell and use Xplorer2. It's pretty reasonably priced at $30 and >quite powerful.Hmmm... There is this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-search But I can't vouch for it, and it *is* MS product...> >>> You DO have control over processes, it is called Task Manager, and >>> never went anywhere. >>* Can you disable: Alerter, Messenger, Distrubited Link Tracking >>Client, Distributed Transaction Coordinator, NetMeeting Remote Desktop >>Sharing, Routing and Remote Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, and >>almost a half a dozen others that most people do not use or want? >> Task Manager DOES NOT have control over those i listed; there are >>about 50 of those i CAN control in Win2K. > >Right click on "My computer" and select manage. It's in there.
Reply by ●October 11, 20122012-10-11
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:29:38 -0400, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:>On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:24:04 -0800 Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> >wrote in Message id: <Duuds.11871$vv4.9476@newsfe02.iad>: > >>MrTallyman wrote: > >[...] AlwaysWrong being AlwaysWrong. > >>* YOU are the idiot; i had ALREADY said that one could search by file name. >> You are purposely IGNORING that the (ASCII) contents cannot be used >>for search. >> And from my experience,i say you lie; there were about 20 or so files >>that matched the filename criteria and ONLY TWO of them were found. > >You are correct. Even XP is pretty lame and misses stuff. I gave up on the >explorer shell and use Xplorer2. It's pretty reasonably priced at $30 and >quite powerful.On Mark/qrk's recommendation, I've been using "Agent Ransack" (FREE). Works great.> >>> You DO have control over processes, it is called Task Manager, and >>> never went anywhere. >>* Can you disable: Alerter, Messenger, Distrubited Link Tracking >>Client, Distributed Transaction Coordinator, NetMeeting Remote Desktop >>Sharing, Routing and Remote Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, and >>almost a half a dozen others that most people do not use or want? >> Task Manager DOES NOT have control over those i listed; there are >>about 50 of those i CAN control in Win2K. > >Right click on "My computer" and select manage. It's in there....Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●October 12, 20122012-10-12
JW wrote:> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:24:04 -0800 Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> > wrote in Message id:<Duuds.11871$vv4.9476@newsfe02.iad>: > >> MrTallyman wrote: > > [...] AlwaysWrong being AlwaysWrong. > >> * YOU are the idiot; i had ALREADY said that one could search by file name. >> You are purposely IGNORING that the (ASCII) contents cannot be used >> for search. >> And from my experience,i say you lie; there were about 20 or so files >> that matched the filename criteria and ONLY TWO of them were found. > > You are correct. Even XP is pretty lame and misses stuff. I gave up on the > explorer shell and use Xplorer2. It's pretty reasonably priced at $30 and > quite powerful. > >>> You DO have control over processes, it is called Task Manager, and >>> never went anywhere. >> * Can you disable: Alerter, Messenger, Distrubited Link Tracking >> Client, Distributed Transaction Coordinator, NetMeeting Remote Desktop >> Sharing, Routing and Remote Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, and >> almost a half a dozen others that most people do not use or want? >> Task Manager DOES NOT have control over those i listed; there are >> about 50 of those i CAN control in Win2K. > > Right click on "My computer" and select manage. It's in there.Thanks. Answer to this question is pivotal concerning me moving to Win7: How can one have small icons on desktop (like Win2K had)? Reason: i have about 70 shortcuts now and have space to add as i need. The name "shortcut" is a true indication of functionality and usefulness and a great timesaver. Thanks for answer ahead of time.
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JW wrote:> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:29:38 -0400 JW<none@dev.null> wrote in Message id: > <d4pd78lc0h68222o472ofkago9jti6rooa@4ax.com>: > >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:24:04 -0800 Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> >> wrote in Message id:<Duuds.11871$vv4.9476@newsfe02.iad>: >> >>> MrTallyman wrote: >> >> [...] AlwaysWrong being AlwaysWrong. >> >>> * YOU are the idiot; i had ALREADY said that one could search by file name. >>> You are purposely IGNORING that the (ASCII) contents cannot be used >>> for search. >>> And from my experience,i say you lie; there were about 20 or so files >>> that matched the filename criteria and ONLY TWO of them were found. >> >> You are correct. Even XP is pretty lame and misses stuff. I gave up on the >> explorer shell and use Xplorer2. It's pretty reasonably priced at $30 and >> quite powerful. > > Hmmm... There is this: > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-search* This proves my proposition that Win7 does not give the capability that Win2K had and that there is a need for something to help. Please note the lie on that page "Few people store all their files in one place these days. So Windows 7 is..". Even in Win2K almost always one is pushed, shoved and kicked to "My Documents" - i count that as ONE place. The few times i used Win7, i found that it was even more pushy. One has to kick and scream ("NO..NO...GO _HERE_") to put and/or get files.> > But I can't vouch for it, and it *is* MS product...* At least it "looks" good.. Thanks.>> >>>> You DO have control over processes, it is called Task Manager, and >>>> never went anywhere. >>> * Can you disable: Alerter, Messenger, Distrubited Link Tracking >>> Client, Distributed Transaction Coordinator, NetMeeting Remote Desktop >>> Sharing, Routing and Remote Access, Smart Card, Smart Card Helper, and >>> almost a half a dozen others that most people do not use or want? >>> Task Manager DOES NOT have control over those i listed; there are >>> about 50 of those i CAN control in Win2K. >> >> Right click on "My computer" and select manage. It's in there.
