What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? I can find any...
LT spice _ LM7812
Started by ●May 14, 2012
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe wrote:> What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? > I can find any...http://www.ece.utah.edu/~ece2280/reg_zener.lib -- "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." (Richard Feynman)
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On 05/14/2012 08:43 PM, Fred Abse wrote:> On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe wrote: > >> What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? >> I can find any... > > http://www.ece.utah.edu/~ece2280/reg_zener.lib >Thank you Fred. Do you know where can I download: - 4060N - 4040N - 4016N - TC4420 --------------------- How to import this into lib ? Thank you again.
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On Mon, 14 May 2012 21:14:07 +0200, nescafe wrote:> On 05/14/2012 08:43 PM, Fred Abse wrote: >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe wrote: >> >>> What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? >>> I can find any... >> >> http://www.ece.utah.edu/~ece2280/reg_zener.lib >> > > Thank you Fred. > Do you know where can I download: > - 4060N > - 4040N > - 4016N > - TC4420 > --------------------- >Offhand, no. 4040 is in a library I have, which says it's from LTC, but I can't find it on their site. I think it was posted here a while ago, maybe by John Fields, but I don't really remember where I got it from. There's a similar 74HC library, too, same applies. Sorry, John, if it wasn't you. The others you may have to make out of LTSpice raw logic "special functions", with appropriate propagation delays and thresholds. I don't use 4000 stuff much, if at all these days, so I've never looked hard.> How to import this into lib ? >Put it into a directory where LTSpice can find it, and put: .lib reg_zener.lib on your schematic. It's really a Pspice lib file, so it might need tweaking a bit. Pspice lib files usually just run. There's a 3-terminal regulator symbol in LTSpice that you could copy and adapt, or you can draw your own. RTFM -- "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." (Richard Feynman)
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On Mon, 14 May 2012 13:55:14 -0700, Fred Abse <excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:>On Mon, 14 May 2012 21:14:07 +0200, nescafe wrote: > >> On 05/14/2012 08:43 PM, Fred Abse wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe wrote: >>> >>>> What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? >>>> I can find any... >>> >>> http://www.ece.utah.edu/~ece2280/reg_zener.lib >>> >> >> Thank you Fred. >> Do you know where can I download: >> - 4060N >> - 4040N >> - 4016N >> - TC4420 >> --------------------- >> >Offhand, no. > >4040 is in a library I have, which says it's from LTC, but I can't find it >on their site. I think it was posted here a while ago, maybe by John >Fields, but I don't really remember where I got it from. There's a similar >74HC library, too, same applies. Sorry, John, if it wasn't you. > >The others you may have to make out of LTSpice raw logic "special >functions", with appropriate propagation delays and thresholds. > >I don't use 4000 stuff much, if at all these days, so I've never looked >hard. > >> How to import this into lib ? >> > >Put it into a directory where LTSpice can find it, and put: >.lib reg_zener.lib on your schematic. It's really a Pspice lib file, so it >might need tweaking a bit. Pspice lib files usually just run. > >There's a 3-terminal regulator symbol in LTSpice that you could copy and >adapt, or you can draw your own. >RTFMHave only this as "analog"... I have the others, but they're in PSpice logic format. **************************************************************** .SUBCKT 54HC4016 1 2 3 4 5 * 1 ANALOG INPUT * 2 ANALOG OUTPUT * 3 CONTROL * 4 VDD (POSITIVE SUPPLY) * 5 VSS (NEGATIVE SUPPLY) * RINP 3 11 500 CINP 11 5 4P D1 11 4 D1 D2 5 11 D1 * M1 12 11 4 4 MP3U L=3U W=10U AD=768P AS=768P PD=208U PS=208U M2 12 11 5 5 MN3U L=3U W=4U AD=256P AS=256P PD=80U PS=80U * M3 13 12 4 4 MP3U L=3U W=30U AD=3600P AS=3600P PD=900U PS=900U M4 13 12 5 5 MN3U L=3U W=10U AD=1080P AS=1080P PD=286U PS=286U * M5 14 13 4 4 MP3U L=3U W=150U AD=256P AS=256P PD=80U PS=80U M6 14 13 5 5 MN3U L=3U W=50U AD=128P AS=128P PD=48U PS=48U *TRANSMISSION GATE DEVICES M7 2 14 1 4 MP3U L=3U W=1500U AD=4500P AS=4500P PD=3000U PS=3000U M8 1 13 2 20 MN3U L=3U W=500U AD=2500P AS=2500P PD=1000U PS=1000U M9 1 13 20 5 MN3U L=3U W=8U M10 20 14 5 5 MN3U L=3U W=8U M11 20 14 1 4 MP3U L=3U W=32U * .MODEL MN3U NMOS LEVEL=3 VTO=1.0 TOX=5E-8 NSUB=1E17 +XJ=1.5U LD=0.3U KP=40U RSH=5 CJ=3E-4 CJSW=3E-10 +KAPPA=1 THETA=1E-4 ETA=1.4 GAMMA=1.1 VMAX=4E5 * .MODEL MP3U PMOS LEVEL=3 VTO=-1.0 TOX=5E-8 NSUB=3E15 +XJ=0.7U LD=0.3U KP=18U RSH=5 CJ=1.8E-4 CJSW=2E-10 +KAPPA=.33 THETA=4E-2 ETA=0.6 GAMMA=0.6 .MODEL D1 D IS=923.17E-18 RS=10 CJO=1.0000E-12 M=.3333 VJ=.75 + ISR=100.00E-12 BV=35.357 IBV=10U TT=5.0000E-9* * .ENDS ===== ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe <nescafe@kkja.com> wrote:>What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? >I can find any...Just curious, but why would you want to Spice an LM7812? -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On 15 Maj, 00:14, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:> On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe <nesc...@kkja.com> wrote: > >What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? > >I can find any... > > Just curious, but why would you want to Spice an LM7812? >I was thinking the same thing, unless you intend to use it for something unconventional, where the model might not work any way, I don't see the point usually when someone ask for odd models for spice it is because they found a schematic and is trying to copy it verbatim to ltspice, trying to see what it does I guess -Lasse
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
John Larkin wrote:> On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe <nescafe@kkja.com> wrote: > > >>What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? >>I can find any... > > > Just curious, but why would you want to Spice an LM7812? > >I suppose one may want a graphic that looks like a regulator with three terminals and can sim a current source or adjustable source with the control pin if desired. All this can be done in a sub circuit using the primitive functions and assigning a graphic to it. Just an idea.. Jamie
Reply by ●May 14, 20122012-05-14
On Mon, 14 May 2012 21:14:07 +0200, nescafe wrote:> On 05/14/2012 08:43 PM, Fred Abse wrote: >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe wrote: >> >>> What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? I can find any... >> >> http://www.ece.utah.edu/~ece2280/reg_zener.lib >> >> > Thank you Fred. > Do you know where can I download: > - 4060N > - 4040N > - 4016N > - TC4420 > --------------------- > > How to import this into lib ? > > Thank you again.There's an LTSpice group on Yahoo that's pretty helpful. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●May 15, 20122012-05-15
On Mon, 14 May 2012 15:14:12 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:>On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:43 +0200, nescafe <nescafe@kkja.com> wrote: > >>What is the substitute for LM7812 in LTspice ? >>I can find any... > >Just curious, but why would you want to Spice an LM7812?For instance, if you put a high power resistor in front of the 78xx in order to dissipate some voltage (and hence power), does the 78xx oscillate and if so, how large capacitor is needed between the resistor and regulator.