On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:19:07 -0700, Winston <Winston@Bigbrother.net> wrote:>mike wrote: > >(...) > >> Can you import some endangered species and convince the government to require the utility to extend the reach of >> electrical power to prevent extinction? > >Can I suggest _Engineerus Hardwarus_. > >--Winston;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:23rbn75u0tvv2l4624uge6qjkqts13ir43@4ax.com...> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:12:23 -0400, Martin Riddle > <martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote: > >>On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:04:05 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:21:03 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>one problem I foresee is that the solar panels will not be able to >>>>initially charge the battery array up to full charge. >>>>Charge them up before you take them out to the no-AC area. >>> >>>Not a problem, Aaron's house (with AC power) is only ~5 miles away. >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>Use a generator to charge them. or just let them charge on the system >>for a few days. >>FYI, a backup generator would be a good idea. Periodically you need >>to equalize the lead acid deep cycle batteries, so AC power might be a >>must depending upon the system size. >> >>Equalize - controlled over charge. see http://batteryfaq.org/ >> >>Cheers > > Interesting thought. Maybe an M-G set would be better than a solar > setup... and it's so-o-o-o less leftist ;-) > >M-G ? I guess you meant NG. You can get gensets that run on Propane too. Or even Diesel. But with the current prices of NG, it's worth looking into. Cheers
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Jim Thompson wrote:> > OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery... > > My son, Aaron, software engineer turned farmer, has acreage in the San > Tan Valley with no source of electric power. > > He'd like some artificial light for his chicken coop to increase the > egg output. > > Lighting and timers are easy to find off-the-shelf, but I need some > pointers toward finding a good quality solar panel that can charge a > 12V car battery. > > Thanks in advance.He needs to crossbreed lightning bugs with his chickens, so they provide their own light. ;-) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:> >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery... >> >> My son, Aaron, software engineer turned farmer, has acreage in the San >> Tan Valley with no source of electric power. >> >> He'd like some artificial light for his chicken coop to increase the >> egg output. >> >> Lighting and timers are easy to find off-the-shelf, but I need some >> pointers toward finding a good quality solar panel that can charge a >> 12V car battery. >> >> Thanks in advance. > > > He needs to crossbreed lightning bugs with his chickens, so they >provide their own light. ;-)We don't have lightning bugs here, at least in this part of Arizona. My kids were astonished upon their first trip back East. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Martin Riddle wrote:> > M-G ? I guess you meant NG. You can get gensets that run on Propane > too. Or even Diesel. > But with the current prices of NG, it's worth looking into.And waste all that free methane from the chicken shit? -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:> >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery... >> >> My son, Aaron, software engineer turned farmer, has acreage in the San >> Tan Valley with no source of electric power. >> >> He'd like some artificial light for his chicken coop to increase the >> egg output. >> >> Lighting and timers are easy to find off-the-shelf, but I need some >> pointers toward finding a good quality solar panel that can charge a >> 12V car battery. >> >> Thanks in advance. > > > He needs to crossbreed lightning bugs with his chickens, so they >provide their own light. ;-)Either that or add a little phosphor and radium to the feed mix.
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Jim Thompson wrote:> > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > >> OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery... > >> > >> My son, Aaron, software engineer turned farmer, has acreage in the San > >> Tan Valley with no source of electric power. > >> > >> He'd like some artificial light for his chicken coop to increase the > >> egg output. > >> > >> Lighting and timers are easy to find off-the-shelf, but I need some > >> pointers toward finding a good quality solar panel that can charge a > >> 12V car battery. > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > > > > > > He needs to crossbreed lightning bugs with his chickens, so they > >provide their own light. ;-) > > We don't have lightning bugs here, at least in this part of Arizona. > My kids were astonished upon their first trip back East.They were so deprived. :) How about Dragon flies? -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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flipper wrote:> > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > >> OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery... > >> > >> My son, Aaron, software engineer turned farmer, has acreage in the San > >> Tan Valley with no source of electric power. > >> > >> He'd like some artificial light for his chicken coop to increase the > >> egg output. > >> > >> Lighting and timers are easy to find off-the-shelf, but I need some > >> pointers toward finding a good quality solar panel that can charge a > >> 12V car battery. > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > > > > > > He needs to crossbreed lightning bugs with his chickens, so they > >provide their own light. ;-) > > Either that or add a little phosphor and radium to the feed mix.And an EPA permit to dispose of their manure. :) -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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flipper wrote: (...)> Either that or add a little phosphor and radium to the feed mix.We know them as "Fukushima Lightbulbs." http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/156486/ "I saw it first but I couldn't move. You understand? It's-wait-a-minute-time when you see something like that, a light coming out of the dog dish, you follow what I'm saying? It's wait a minute time when you see something like that," says John Fairley, who first saw the bones glow. --Winston<-- So it was bacteria. Sue me. :)
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:24:09 -0400, "Martin Riddle" <martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:> >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote >in message news:23rbn75u0tvv2l4624uge6qjkqts13ir43@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:12:23 -0400, Martin Riddle >> <martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:04:05 -0700, Jim Thompson >>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:21:03 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>one problem I foresee is that the solar panels will not be able to >>>>>initially charge the battery array up to full charge. >>>>>Charge them up before you take them out to the no-AC area. >>>> >>>>Not a problem, Aaron's house (with AC power) is only ~5 miles away. >>>> >>>> ...Jim Thompson >>> >>>Use a generator to charge them. or just let them charge on the system >>>for a few days. >>>FYI, a backup generator would be a good idea. Periodically you need >>>to equalize the lead acid deep cycle batteries, so AC power might be a >>>must depending upon the system size. >>> >>>Equalize - controlled over charge. see http://batteryfaq.org/ >>> >>>Cheers >> >> Interesting thought. Maybe an M-G set would be better than a solar >> setup... and it's so-o-o-o less leftist ;-) >> >> > M-G ? I guess you meant NG. You can get gensets that run on Propane >too. Or even Diesel. >But with the current prices of NG, it's worth looking into. > >Cheers >I'm showing my age, and your youth... "M-G set" = motor-generator set :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.