On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 09:37:23 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:>On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 11:19:56 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: > >>On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:14:59 -0800 (PST), RichD >><r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>I haven't yet met anyone who can explain the zipper. >>> >>>Equally baffling, is its malfunction. You know, suddenly >>>the teeth won't mesh. You try to force the tracks together >>>by hand, but nada, it's irreparable. How can a mechanism >>>so simple fail? >>> >>>So simple, yet so inexplicable... >>> >>>Who invented this gadget? He deserves a monument - >>> >>>--- >>>Rich >> >>I just sew a new one over the old, after cutting off the teeth. >> >>A trick my brother (with six kids) taught me. >> >>More useful on jackets or luggage than elsewhere. >> >>My bike bags are nearing 40yrs old, winter parka 15yrs. >> >>RL> > >Looks like we've found our Cheapskate of the Year winner for 2024 >already!I just don't like shopping, or most new stuff of any kind. When I try to replace stuff that I like and that has served well, they either don't make it anymore, or the entire retail operation is gone. Beginning to think that my custom is the mark of doom for any retail operation . . . RL
the enigmatic zipper
Started by ●January 19, 2024
Reply by ●January 21, 20242024-01-21
Reply by ●January 21, 20242024-01-21
On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 8:15:04 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:> I haven't yet met anyone who can explain the zipper. > > Equally baffling, is its malfunction. You know, suddenly > the teeth won't mesh. You try to force the tracks together > by hand, but nada, it's irreparable. How can a mechanism > so simple fail?You obviously damaged something, probably in the slider, and that due to forcing it out of alignment. Failure is usually a binding mode. https://www.fixnzip.com/understanding-how-zippers-work/> > So simple, yet so inexplicable... > > Who invented this gadget? He deserves a monument - > > --- > Rich
Reply by ●January 21, 20242024-01-21
On 1/21/2024 8:02 AM, legg wrote:> I just don't like shopping, or most new stuff of any kind.+42 (at least for the shopping... some new is acceptable, though most is a step downwards)> When I try to replace stuff that I like and that has served well, > they either don't make it anymore, or the entire retail > operation is gone.I have learned to buy multiples of everything I like. E.g., I buy *4* pair of "identical" shoes each time I discover I "need shoes". I can store them in MY closet just as easily as they can store them in THEIR warehouse! YEARS (!) ago, a friend gifted me some T-shirts... all identical (she had "noticed" my fondness for black T-shirts and these are black -- at least the BACKS are!). I had 42 of one "style" and 30-something of another. (two different images imprinted) Each New Year, I scrap the 7 shirts that I had worn the previous year and drag out 7 of the "other" style. Seven shirts gives me a fresh, clean shirt each day until weekend laundry (on which day I wear the third-style, "while-doing-laundry-black-T-shirt"). I figure at least another 5 years before I'll be back to wearing any "other" shirts. And, bluejeans are bluejeans... regardless of make. [I have two (identical) black dress shirts for special occasions (which, at my age, is often funerals). And, of course, two identical pair of black dress slacks.] [[You can always find a NEW pair of slacks or shirt if the sole criteria is "black" (white shows dirt too easily)]]> Beginning to think that my custom is the mark of doom for any > retail operation . . .Our biggest complaint is when specific foodstuffs stop being available. Costco ran out of sweet onions (I eat 5lbs weekly) which resulted in a mad dash to other stores to see if anyone else had anything similar in stock. We'll have to buy sliced almonds on-line as Costco apparently may have stopped carrying that brand, too. (bake biscotti every two weeks) No need for "best" solution as long as an "adequate" solution exists and purchasing it requires no "special effort". [we no longer buy "new" products at Trader Joe's as they have a bad track record of discontinuing products. They stopped selling the mints that SWMBO enjoys (similar to Altoids). So, I figured out how to make my own. Instead of a couple of dollars for a small tin with ~40 pieces, I make 2 *pounds* of them at a time -- for about the price of two of those tins! But, the house stinks of mint for two days... :< Prior to that, they stopped selling the Benne Wafers she likes. So, I make batches of 35 dozen for her -- again, cheaper than TJ's would sell theirs!]
Reply by ●January 21, 20242024-01-21
On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:50:00 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:>On 1/21/2024 8:02 AM, legg wrote: >> I just don't like shopping, or most new stuff of any kind. > >+42 (at least for the shopping... some new is acceptable, >though most is a step downwards) > >> When I try to replace stuff that I like and that has served well, >> they either don't make it anymore, or the entire retail >> operation is gone. > >I have learned to buy multiples of everything I like. >E.g., I buy *4* pair of "identical" shoes each time I >discover I "need shoes". I can store them in MY closet >just as easily as they can store them in THEIR warehouse! > >YEARS (!) ago, a friend gifted me some T-shirts... all identical >(she had "noticed" my fondness for black T-shirts and these are >black -- at least the BACKS are!). I had 42 of one "style" >and 30-something of another. (two different images imprinted) > >Each New Year, I scrap the 7 shirts that I had worn the previous >year and drag out 7 of the "other" style. Seven shirts gives me >a fresh, clean shirt each day until weekend laundry (on which >day I wear the third-style, "while-doing-laundry-black-T-shirt"). > >I figure at least another 5 years before I'll be back to >wearing any "other" shirts. > >And, bluejeans are bluejeans... regardless of make. > >[I have two (identical) black dress shirts for special occasions >(which, at my age, is often funerals). And, of course, two >identical pair of black dress slacks.] > >[[You can always find a NEW pair of slacks or shirt if the >sole criteria is "black" (white shows dirt too easily)]] > >> Beginning to think that my custom is the mark of doom for any >> retail operation . . . > >Our biggest complaint is when specific foodstuffs stop >being available. Costco ran out of sweet onions (I eat >5lbs weekly) which resulted in a mad dash to other >stores to see if anyone else had anything similar in stock.We get fabulous purple onions. I bake biskits with purple onion and parmesan and cheddar. There are thermal challenges. I'm researching 2-layer cookie pans and Curie temperatures.> >We'll have to buy sliced almonds on-line as Costco apparently >may have stopped carrying that brand, too. (bake biscotti >every two weeks)Mo does that, a gigantic batch a couple times per year. It takes days. Chocolate dipped, of course. The dip is a tricky process.
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Reply by ●January 22, 20242024-01-22
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:> I just don't like shopping, or most new stuff of any kind. > > When I try to replace stuff that I like and that has served well, > they either don't make it anymore, or the entire retail > operation is gone. > > Beginning to think that my custom is the mark of doom for any > retail operation . . . > > RLI agree with you. Planned obsolescence is running rampant. I have learned to buy a backup spare when I find something I like. For example, Instant Pot cookers. The company recently went bankrupt and no longer makes them. I found Walmart Canada put them on sale for real cheap (1/3 normal price). Now I have a spare, even though there is every indication they will last forever. But now I can sleep at night. -- MRM
