Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink that dries out? Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A Or in the states https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ - for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 Inches, Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW -- MRM
End Laser Envy
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Reply by ●August 19, 20232023-08-19
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI <spamme@not.com> wrote:>Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink >that dries out? > >Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? > >Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon >quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: > >Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black > >https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A > >Or in the states > >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ > >- for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything >they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. > >Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? > >SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer >Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 >Inches, Black > >https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW > >In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees > >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JWI got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize until I got it that it prints on both sides. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT Big but really nice.
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On 8/19/2023 4:01 AM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:> Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink > that dries out?Hell no! Though the ink for the phasers was probably *more* outrageous (but the prints were infinitely nicer!). Craigslist will turn up a few each week if you feel like maintaining your own printer.> Looking at lasers but finding the price too high?Look to your local public library -- 10c/ea for double-sided color. You likely can submit a "job" from home and just go pick it up. Or, your local Kinkos/service bureau. It's just not worth the hassle of maintaining printers when you can purchase *prints* for pennies. We keep a couple of old (low temperature) laserjets simply because I rescued a half dozen NIB toner cartridges -- and, having a monochrome print sometimes comes in handy. At 5000pp per cartridge, we'll likely NEVER have to buy one! But, the duplex phasers and high-speed lasers are a thing of the past, here. Esp if you want to leave the printer powered up so its ready whenever ANYONE wants to use it.> Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon > quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here:USB? Ick. Printers should all talk over the network. Who wants to dedicate a computer to serving the printer? What happens when your next OS doesn't include support for the printer? Ditto for other appliances (scanners, SAN/NAS, etc.)> Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black > > https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A > > Or in the states > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ > > - for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything > they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. > > Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? > > SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer > Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 > Inches, Black > > https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW > > In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW
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On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:23:00 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in <12k1eil96dsb2ek3i34lgofvdev2teo2kp@4ax.com>:>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI ><spamme@not.com> wrote: > >>Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink >>that dries out? >> >>Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? >> >>Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon >>quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: >> >>Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black >> >>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A >> >>Or in the states >> >>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ >> >>- for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything >>they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. >> >>Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? >> >>SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer >>Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 >>Inches, Black >> >>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW >> >>In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees >> >>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW > >I got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes >with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize >until I got it that it prints on both sides. > >https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT > >Big but really nice.I have an Epson R200 inkjet color printer and used it mainly to print labels on DVDs, looked really nice. Yes some ink dries out, I bought an ink system for it with big bottles back then. It is sitting in a box somewhere, all goes via gifs and jpgs and video over the net these days, pdfs with pictures too. My first printer was a Brother thermal one to print receipts for my repair shop. Have some other BW printer somewhere too. Use your cellphone to show things.... BW printing??? Who needs it?
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:11:51 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:>On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:23:00 -0700) it happened John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in ><12k1eil96dsb2ek3i34lgofvdev2teo2kp@4ax.com>: > >>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI >><spamme@not.com> wrote: >> >>>Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink >>>that dries out? >>> >>>Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? >>> >>>Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon >>>quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: >>> >>>Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black >>> >>>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A >>> >>>Or in the states >>> >>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ >>> >>>- for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything >>>they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. >>> >>>Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? >>> >>>SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer >>>Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 >>>Inches, Black >>> >>>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW >>> >>>In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees >>> >>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW >> >>I got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes >>with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize >>until I got it that it prints on both sides. >> >>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT >> >>Big but really nice. > >I have an Epson R200 inkjet color printer and used it mainly to print labels on DVDs, looked really nice. >Yes some ink dries out, I bought an ink system for it with big bottles back then. >It is sitting in a box somewhere, all goes via gifs and jpgs and video over the net these days, >pdfs with pictures too. > >My first printer was a Brother thermal one to print receipts for my repair shop. >Have some other BW printer somewhere too. > >Use your cellphone to show things.... >BW printing??? Who needs it? >I like to print documents and mark them up. I can do that in bed with coffee or chocolate handy. Schematics too. We have a wonderful Sharp networked printer/copier/scanner at work that prints B-sized schematics. US 'A' size schematics are too small for me, and a screen doesn't have the same feel as a nice stapled multi-sheet schematic that you can scribble on. A printed schematic is essentially three (or at least 2.5d) dimensional, like the real world. Brains form and manipulate 3D images of the world, and a stack of paper feels like that to me; I know where the clock buffer is in paper space. It will later become a multilayer PC board, same sort of spatial concept. A schematic or a PCB layout on a cell phone might work for a tiny design, but ours run to 20 B-size sheets and 1000 components.
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On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 10:23:25 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI > <spa...@not.com> wrote: > > >Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink > >that dries out? > > > >Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? > > > >Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon > >quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: > > > >Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black > > > >https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A > > > >Or in the states > > > >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ > > > >- for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything > >they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. > > > >Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? > > > >SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer > >Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 > >Inches, Black > > > >https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW > > > >In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees > > > >https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW > I got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes > with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize > until I got it that it prints on both sides. > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT > > Big but really nice.There are a bunch of submodel variations on that MF3010 Low end brand new but discontinued in U.S. is $79.00. https://www.amazon.com/Canon-imageCLASS-Multifunction-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B005A09UCY/ref=asc_df_B005A09UCY/ The 'compare with similar items' gives the micro-differences. Who would buy a wired vs wireless printer these days, even for personal use? The manufacturers need to be responsible and put a limit on or completely block braindead fossils from doing things like printing out 300-page pdf's. A lot of those types aren't worth the resources they consume. The Canon software I know has a 'print to pdf' feature, pdf sent to disk folder. That turns out to be valuable for times the recipient requires a document in 'uneditable format', as they say, sent as email attachment.
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On 2023-08-19 07:01, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:> Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink > that dries out? > > Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? > > Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon > quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: > > Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black > > https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A > > Or in the states > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ > > - for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything > they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. > > Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? > > SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer > Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 > Inches, Black > > https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW > > In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JWWe standardized on eBay LaserJet 2300DTNs a decade or so back. Most of them need new rollers, but our laser repair guy charged us $100 for a house call to do that last time. Their Ethernet is 100base-T, which is fine for a printer. Our printers are in one corner of my office, next to the main Supermicro server and about 8 feet from the cable modem, so wiring is not an issue. HP discontinued the #10 print cartridges they use, but they're available cheap from overseas. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by ●August 19, 20232023-08-19
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:23:00 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI ><spamme@not.com> wrote: > >>Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink >>that dries out? >> >>Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? >> >>Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon >>quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: >> >>Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black >> >>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A >> >>Or in the states >> >>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ >> >>- for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything >>they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. >> >>Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? >> >>SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer >>Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 >>Inches, Black >> >>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW >> >>In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees >> >>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW > >I got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes >with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize >until I got it that it prints on both sides. > >https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT > >Big but really nice.I went the Brother printer route years ago. They just work and I can get the inexpensive print cartridges. WAY better than what HP turned out to be ! boB
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:31:32 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:23:00 -0700, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI >><spamme@not.com> wrote: >> >>>Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink >>>that dries out? >>> >>>Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? >>> >>>Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon >>>quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: >>> >>>Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black >>> >>>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A >>> >>>Or in the states >>> >>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ >>> >>>- for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything >>>they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. >>> >>>Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? >>> >>>SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer >>>Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 >>>Inches, Black >>> >>>https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW >>> >>>In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees >>> >>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW >> >>I got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes >>with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize >>until I got it that it prints on both sides. >> >>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT >> >>Big but really nice. > > >I went the Brother printer route years ago. They just work and I can >get the inexpensive print cartridges. > >WAY better than what HP turned out to be ! > >boBI recenty read about another HP scam. Their printer refuses to print a b&w doc if any of the color cartriges is low.
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John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 12:31:32 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:23:00 -0700, John Larkin >> <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI >>> <spamme@not.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Still playing with Inkjet printers and paying outrageous prices for ink >>>> that dries out? >>>> >>>> Looking at lasers but finding the price too high? >>>> >>>> Voila. Canon released a black and white laser printer for $99, with Canon >>>> quality and reliability. USB interface. Buy it here: >>>> >>>> Canon imageCLASS MF3010 Laser Multifunction Printer, Black >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DU7K50A >>>> >>>> Or in the states >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU7K50A/ >>>> >>>> - for $329. Donno why the price is so high, but vendors can charge anything >>>> they can get away with. Buy it from Canada. >>>> >>>> Need a printer stand on wheels that fits the printer for $35.99? >>>> >>>> SONGMICS 3 Tier Printer Stand, Printer Table with Wheels, Rolling Printer >>>> Cart, Printer Desk with Metal Frame for Home Office, 16.1 x 12.2 x 26.8 >>>> Inches, Black >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FDVR5JW >>>> >>>> In the states, $35.99 + $25.25 Shipping & Import Fees >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FDVR5JW >>> >>> I got tired of HP ripoffs and got a Brother color printer, which comes >>> with a massive amount of toner and refills are cheap. I didn't realize >>> until I got it that it prints on both sides. >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDSMKLT >>> >>> Big but really nice. >> >> >> I went the Brother printer route years ago. They just work and I can >> get the inexpensive print cartridges. >> >> WAY better than what HP turned out to be ! >> >> boB > > I recenty read about another HP scam. Their printer refuses to print a > b&w doc if any of the color cartriges is low. > >My Brother MFC-2490CW B-size all-in-ones are like that, but since they don’t use cartridges with chips, it’s not a problem. Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
