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"Mike Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices"

Started by Simon S Aysdie March 4, 2020
"This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman 


https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233
On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 9:55:22 PM UTC-5, Simon S Aysdie wrote:
> "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman > > > https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233
Time will tell. I don't know how ADI views LTspice. It's a free tool that likely provides only a minimum return. Maybe they will find someone else to take it over. Or maybe they will allow it to continue without much further effort. Probably the only real work it requires is to support models for new parts. I'd be willing to bet that is already handled by the groups who produce the various parts. -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 2:19:16 PM UTC+11, Rick C wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 9:55:22 PM UTC-5, Simon S Aysdie wrote: > > "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman > > > > > > https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233 > > Time will tell. I don't know how ADI views LTspice. It's a free tool that likely provides only a minimum return. Maybe they will find someone else to take it over. Or maybe they will allow it to continue without much further effort. > > Probably the only real work it requires is to support models for new parts. I'd be willing to bet that is already handled by the groups who produce the various parts.
LTSpice is a whole lot better than the other free Spice clones, and Mike Engelhardt seems to have been a key figure in keeping it that way. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 18:55:16 -0800 (PST), Simon S Aysdie
<gwhite@ti.com> wrote:

>"This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman > > >https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233
Parts are being shipped without models, too. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet. "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:55:16 -0800, Simon S Aysdie wrote:

> "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike > Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman > > > https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233
That figures. I have found the schematic entry increasingly flakey of late. Put a .param statement or simulation command, .tran, .ac or whatever, on the schematic. Run the sim, then right-click on the command. The dialog box (the new style introduced in XVII) pops up, change some values, hit OK. The command on the sim is unchanged. ctrl+right click and edit the statement directly, if you can remember the syntax, hit OK and the edits succeed. Anybody else seen this?
On 05/03/2020 09:00, news@rblack01.plus.com wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:55:16 -0800, Simon S Aysdie wrote: > >> "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike >> Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman >> >> >> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233 > > That figures. I have found the schematic entry increasingly flakey of > late. > > Put a .param statement or simulation command, .tran, .ac or whatever, on > the schematic. Run the sim, then right-click on the command. The dialog > box (the new style introduced in XVII) pops up, change some values, hit > OK. The command on the sim is unchanged. > > ctrl+right click and edit the statement directly, if you can remember the > syntax, hit OK and the edits succeed. > > Anybody else seen this?
Yes, it's annoying. -- Cheers Clive
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 09:00:53 -0000 (UTC), news@rblack01.plus.com wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:55:16 -0800, Simon S Aysdie wrote: > >> "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike >> Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman >> >> >> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233 > >That figures. I have found the schematic entry increasingly flakey of >late. > >Put a .param statement or simulation command, .tran, .ac or whatever, on >the schematic. Run the sim, then right-click on the command. The dialog >box (the new style introduced in XVII) pops up, change some values, hit >OK. The command on the sim is unchanged. > >ctrl+right click and edit the statement directly, if you can remember the >syntax, hit OK and the edits succeed. > >Anybody else seen this?
The "helpful" dialog boxes, like the one that edits the simulation command, have been goofy for some time now. If you switch from, say, time domain to frequency domain sim, the parameters get all scrambled. I flip the .tran and .ac command lines between directives and comments to change sim mode. It didn't used to be necessary to do that. Maybe Analog wrecked the philosophy. It would be interesting to hear the story some day. Mike is probably NDA'd, or maybe paid, to not tell. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet. "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 1:00:58 AM UTC-8, ne...@rblack01.plus.com wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:55:16 -0800, Simon S Aysdie wrote: > > > "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike > > Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman > > > > > > https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233 > > That figures. I have found the schematic entry increasingly flakey of > late. > > Put a .param statement or simulation command, .tran, .ac or whatever, on > the schematic. Run the sim, then right-click on the command. The dialog > box (the new style introduced in XVII) pops up, change some values, hit > OK. The command on the sim is unchanged. > > ctrl+right click and edit the statement directly, if you can remember the > syntax, hit OK and the edits succeed. > > Anybody else seen this?
Something like that, I think. Is it time to have a discussion on "the last stable and nice version"? and get the related install executable stored someplace?
Am 05.03.2020 um 17:09 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 09:00:53 -0000 (UTC), news@rblack01.plus.com wrote: > >> On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 18:55:16 -0800, Simon S Aysdie wrote: >> >>> "This does not bode well for the future of LTspice now that Mike >>> Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices."---analog spiceman >>> >>> >>> https://groups.io/g/LTspice/topic/cloud_over_ltspice/71467233 >> >> That figures. I have found the schematic entry increasingly flakey of >> late. >> >> Put a .param statement or simulation command, .tran, .ac or whatever, on >> the schematic. Run the sim, then right-click on the command. The dialog >> box (the new style introduced in XVII) pops up, change some values, hit >> OK. The command on the sim is unchanged. >> >> ctrl+right click and edit the statement directly, if you can remember the >> syntax, hit OK and the edits succeed. >> >> Anybody else seen this? > > The "helpful" dialog boxes, like the one that edits the simulation > command, have been goofy for some time now. If you switch from, say, > time domain to frequency domain sim, the parameters get all scrambled. > > I flip the .tran and .ac command lines between directives and comments > to change sim mode. It didn't used to be necessary to do that. > > > Maybe Analog wrecked the philosophy. It would be interesting to hear > the story some day. Mike is probably NDA'd, or maybe paid, to not > tell. >
Hello John, The "problem" caused when switching between the simulation type while using the standard dialog has been implemented years ago by Mike - an extra editor for every type of command line. There is an easy workaround. Make seperate SPICE-directives for each type of simulation which you need and make all to comments. Then make only the one you need to a SPICE-directive. Another department of Analog Devices supports now LTspice. Earlier or later this would have happened anyway. I am happy that Analog Devices has decided that LTspice is their primary simulation tool. This guarantees that LTspice will be supported for the next decades. Helmut Founder of the LTspice group in groups.io. All content of the LTspice Yahoo group has been copied to groups.io before Yahoo deleted the content of all groups last year. https://groups.io/g/LTspice PS: I am not an employee of Analog Devices.
>...and get the related install executable stored someplace?
It (4) might be portable. (just copy the files) I might find out soon when I put up this other PC. I can "stick" it in there and see if it runs.