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LTSpice Sim of Strange Old Transistor Circuit

Started by Robert Miller August 4, 2017
I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of the 
strange circuit previously under discussion.

https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa

Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional.

I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents.

Robert Miller
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:33:18 +1000, Robert Miller
<rmiller@teledyne.com> wrote:

>I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of the >strange circuit previously under discussion. > >https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa > >Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional. > >I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents. > >Robert Miller
The power supply is backwards, and the transistors have too much beta for that horrible beta-biasing. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 20:44:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:33:18 +1000, Robert Miller ><rmiller@teledyne.com> wrote: > >>I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of the >>strange circuit previously under discussion. >> >>https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa >> >>Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional. >> >>I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents. >> >>Robert Miller > >The power supply is backwards, and the transistors have too much beta >for that horrible beta-biasing.
Several transliteration errors. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I'm looking for work... see my website. Thinking outside the box...producing elegant & economic solutions.
On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:25:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 20:44:18 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote: > >>On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:33:18 +1000, Robert Miller >><rmiller@teledyne.com> wrote: >> >>>I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of the >>>strange circuit previously under discussion. >>> >>>https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa >>> >>>Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional. >>> >>>I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents. >>> >>>Robert Miller >> >>The power supply is backwards, and the transistors have too much beta >>for that horrible beta-biasing. > >Several transliteration errors. > > ...Jim Thompson
L8 = 10 nH is a little strange, too. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
On 4.8.17 19:07, John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:25:19 -0700, Jim Thompson > <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 20:44:18 -0700, John Larkin >> <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:33:18 +1000, Robert Miller >>> <rmiller@teledyne.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of the >>>> strange circuit previously under discussion. >>>> >>>> https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa >>>> >>>> Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional. >>>> >>>> I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents. >>>> >>>> Robert Miller >>> >>> The power supply is backwards, and the transistors have too much beta >>> for that horrible beta-biasing. >> >> Several transliteration errors. >> >> ...Jim Thompson > > L8 = 10 nH is a little strange, too.
It is far too little. The garden-variety RF choke of the tube era was 2.5 mH. Applies to other chokes, too. -- -TV
On 04/08/2017 17:40, Tauno Voipio wrote:
> On 4.8.17 19:07, John Larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:25:19 -0700, Jim Thompson >> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 20:44:18 -0700, John Larkin >>> <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:33:18 +1000, Robert Miller >>>> <rmiller@teledyne.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of >>>>> the >>>>> strange circuit previously under discussion. >>>>> >>>>> https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa >>>>> >>>>> Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional. >>>>> >>>>> I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Miller >>>> >>>> The power supply is backwards, and the transistors have too much beta >>>> for that horrible beta-biasing. >>> >>> Several transliteration errors. >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >> L8 = 10 nH is a little strange, too. > > > It is far too little. The garden-variety RF choke of the tube era > was 2.5 mH. Applies to other chokes, too. >
None of this matters, given the intended Radionics use of the device I think it is not necessary for it to work in the boring engineering sense of our limited understanding for it to perform its intended function in healing and mind control :) piglet --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com
On 8/4/2017 3:03 PM, Piglet wrote:
> On 04/08/2017 17:40, Tauno Voipio wrote: >> On 4.8.17 19:07, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 08:25:19 -0700, Jim Thompson >>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 20:44:18 -0700, John Larkin >>>> <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:33:18 +1000, Robert Miller >>>>> <rmiller@teledyne.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I decided to delve deeper into the mystery. Here is an .asc file of >>>>>> the >>>>>> strange circuit previously under discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://app.box.com/s/cwlnjt5zh14ubdaul4odvhcehw2tnapa >>>>>> >>>>>> Unless I have made an error, it appears to be non-functional. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am now preparing a bonfire for my collection of such old documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Miller >>>>> >>>>> The power supply is backwards, and the transistors have too much beta >>>>> for that horrible beta-biasing. >>>> >>>> Several transliteration errors. >>>> >>>> ...Jim Thompson >>> >>> L8 = 10 nH is a little strange, too. >> >> >> It is far too little. The garden-variety RF choke of the tube era >> was 2.5 mH. Applies to other chokes, too. >> > > None of this matters, given the intended Radionics use of the device I > think it is not necessary for it to work in the boring engineering sense > of our limited understanding for it to perform its intended function in > healing and mind control :) > > piglet
Radionics amp? This makes sense. Tell us more! Generally in those days radionics amps were what looked like RF amps but with all tuning removed. In that case input coil would be the pickup probe (However here it does seem tuned) but I'd expect output to go to a "stroking plate" rather than another coil.