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Started by John Larkin May 22, 2023

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/


This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. 

Maybe it's useful for something else.

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:02:17 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/ > > > This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. > > Maybe it's useful for something else.
A comparator with a reference current output.
On Mon, 22 May 2023 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:02:17?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/ >> >> >> This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. >> >> Maybe it's useful for something else. > > >A comparator with a reference current output.
I was hoping for something completely different. We use NTC thermisters. What I would really like is to be able to point some kind of (cheap) IR sensor at a general area of power components and get a rough estimate. Instead of tacking thermisters to transformers and FETs which is kind of a pain. I looked into those IR sensors used in cheap $20 temperature guns but the lens assembly, I think, makes that not too easy or cheap to implement. boB
tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 01.30.49 UTC+2 skrev boB:
> On Mon, 22 May 2023 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:02:17?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: > >> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/ > >> > >> > >> This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. > >> > >> Maybe it's useful for something else. > > > > > >A comparator with a reference current output. > I was hoping for something completely different. > > We use NTC thermisters. > > What I would really like is to be able to point some kind of (cheap) > IR sensor at a general area of power components and get a rough > estimate. Instead of tacking thermisters to transformers and FETs > which is kind of a pain. > > I looked into those IR sensors used in cheap $20 temperature guns but > the lens assembly, I think, makes that not too easy or cheap to > implement.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001283475551.html
On a sunny day (Mon, 22 May 2023 17:14:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lasse
Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote in
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>tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 01.30.49 UTC+2 skrev boB: >> On Mon, 22 May 2023 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:02:17?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >> >> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/ >> >> >> >> >> >> This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. >> >> >> >> Maybe it's useful for something else. >> > >> > >> >A comparator with a reference current output. >> I was hoping for something completely different. >> >> We use NTC thermisters. >> >> What I would really like is to be able to point some kind of (cheap) >> IR sensor at a general area of power components and get a rough >> estimate. Instead of tacking thermisters to transformers and FETs >> which is kind of a pain. >> >> I looked into those IR sensors used in cheap $20 temperature guns but >> the lens assembly, I think, makes that not too easy or cheap to >> implement. >https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001283475551.html
I use a MLX90640 with a Raspberry Pi 4 as IR camera https://makersportal.com/blog/2020/6/8/high-resolution-thermal-camera-with-raspberry-pi-and-mlx90640 it was more expensive, about 60 USD, but works OK. Could be same module? Software: https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html#xflir
On Tue, 23 May 2023 04:53:52 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

>On a sunny day (Mon, 22 May 2023 17:14:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lasse >Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote in ><0fa4d6bb-8b39-488d-884d-473e15d8f77fn@googlegroups.com>: > >>tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 01.30.49 UTC+2 skrev boB: >>> On Mon, 22 May 2023 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:02:17?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >>> >> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. >>> >> >>> >> Maybe it's useful for something else. >>> > >>> > >>> >A comparator with a reference current output. >>> I was hoping for something completely different. >>> >>> We use NTC thermisters. >>> >>> What I would really like is to be able to point some kind of (cheap) >>> IR sensor at a general area of power components and get a rough >>> estimate. Instead of tacking thermisters to transformers and FETs >>> which is kind of a pain. >>> >>> I looked into those IR sensors used in cheap $20 temperature guns but >>> the lens assembly, I think, makes that not too easy or cheap to >>> implement. >>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001283475551.html > >I use a MLX90640 with a Raspberry Pi 4 as IR camera > https://makersportal.com/blog/2020/6/8/high-resolution-thermal-camera-with-raspberry-pi-and-mlx90640 >it was more expensive, about 60 USD, but works OK. >Could be same module? >Software: > https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html#xflir
Yes, that and the alliexpress thing would work. But they cost too much for this conumer grade inverter/charger application Thank you for those ideas ! boB
tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 20.23.51 UTC+2 skrev boB:
> On Tue, 23 May 2023 04:53:52 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> > wrote: > >On a sunny day (Mon, 22 May 2023 17:14:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lasse > >Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in > ><0fa4d6bb-8b39-488d...@googlegroups.com>: > > > >>tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 01.30.49 UTC+2 skrev boB: > >>> On Mon, 22 May 2023 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > >>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 3:02:17?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: > >>> >> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/toshiba-debuts-thermoflagger-as-temperature-sensor-ic-alternative/ > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> This seems awfully silly to me. At least it's cheap, about 13 cents. > >>> >> > >>> >> Maybe it's useful for something else. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >A comparator with a reference current output. > >>> I was hoping for something completely different. > >>> > >>> We use NTC thermisters. > >>> > >>> What I would really like is to be able to point some kind of (cheap) > >>> IR sensor at a general area of power components and get a rough > >>> estimate. Instead of tacking thermisters to transformers and FETs > >>> which is kind of a pain. > >>> > >>> I looked into those IR sensors used in cheap $20 temperature guns but > >>> the lens assembly, I think, makes that not too easy or cheap to > >>> implement. > >>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001283475551.html > > > >I use a MLX90640 with a Raspberry Pi 4 as IR camera > > https://makersportal.com/blog/2020/6/8/high-resolution-thermal-camera-with-raspberry-pi-and-mlx90640 > >it was more expensive, about 60 USD, but works OK. > >Could be same module? > >Software: > > https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html#xflir > Yes, that and the alliexpress thing would work. > > But they cost too much for this conumer grade inverter/charger > application > > Thank you for those ideas !
the MLX90640 with a 35 degree field of view is ~$6-$7 on aliexpress
On 2023-05-23 20:42, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

> the MLX90640 with a 35 degree field of view is ~$6-$7 on aliexpress
Could you provide a link for that? I cannot find anything below EUR 40. Arie
tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 21.43.24 UTC+2 skrev Arie de Muijnck:
> On 2023-05-23 20:42, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > > > the MLX90640 with a 35 degree field of view is ~$6-$7 on aliexpress > Could you provide a link for that? I cannot find anything below EUR 40. >
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000041781708.html
On 2023-05-23 21:51, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> tirsdag den 23. maj 2023 kl. 21.43.24 UTC+2 skrev Arie de Muijnck: >> On 2023-05-23 20:42, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >> >>> the MLX90640 with a 35 degree field of view is ~$6-$7 on aliexpress >> Could you provide a link for that? I cannot find anything below EUR 40. >> > > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000041781708.html
Ah, I see. That is the MLX90614, a single pixel temperature sensor, not the MLX90640 which is a 32x32 'camera'. Arie.