MUN5333DW1T1G surge current

Hi,

I need an array of high-side switches, not more than 50mA per channel. 
The MUN5333DW1T1G would be handy. Unfortunately, the datasheet specifies 
100mA max. continuous I_C only and I can't see anything about its surge 
handling capabilities. What should I assume for an 8/20us ESD pulse? 
Does 1A looks OK?

	Best regards, Piotr

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 18:05:23 +0200, Piotr Wyderski
<bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I need an array of high-side switches, not more than 50mA per channel. 
>The MUN5333DW1T1G would be handy. Unfortunately, the datasheet specifies 
>100mA max. continuous I_C only and I can't see anything about its surge 
>handling capabilities. What should I assume for an 8/20us ESD pulse? 
>Does 1A looks OK?
>
>	Best regards, Piotr

Why use NPNs as high-side switches? 

Single transistors seldom include ESD protection.

What's the application?


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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Why use NPNs as high-side switches?

The high-side switch is the PNP half. The NPN one is a level translator 
from the 2.5V FPGA enable.

> Single transistors seldom include ESD protection.

There will be a 600W 14V TVS, with 29V max clamp voltage during the 
surge. The question is what should be the value of the resistor between 
the TVS and the high-side collector.

> What's the application?

A digitizer for an array of mechanical switches. The 20-50mA is the 
wetting current, one switch will be tested at a time in a round-robin 
fashion to limit the supply current.

	Best regards, Piotr

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:39:43 +0200, Piotr Wyderski
<bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>
>> Why use NPNs as high-side switches?
>
>The high-side switch is the PNP half. The NPN one is a level translator 
>from the 2.5V FPGA enable.
>
>> Single transistors seldom include ESD protection.
>
>There will be a 600W 14V TVS, with 29V max clamp voltage during the 
>surge. The question is what should be the value of the resistor between 
>the TVS and the high-side collector.


Zero?


>
>> What's the application?
>
>A digitizer for an array of mechanical switches. The 20-50mA is the 
>wetting current, one switch will be tested at a time in a round-robin 
>fashion to limit the supply current.
>
>	Best regards, Piotr

We like TPIC6595 whan we need a lot of current-sinking drivers from an
FPGA. It's very rugged, controlled avalanche. You'd still need the
PNPs.

There was a cool octal pull-up driver, UCN5815A, but it's unobtanium
now.

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but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> Hi,I need an array of high-side switches, not more than 50mA per channel. The MUN5333DW1T1G would be handy. Unfortunately, the datasheet specifies 100mA max. continuous I_C only and I can't see anything about its surge handling capabilities. What should I assume for an 8/20us ESD pulse? Does 1A looks OK?	Best regards, Piotr

Have a look at Micrel eg microchip.  The have some dual tsop 's 

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John Larkin wrote:

>> There will be a 600W 14V TVS, with 29V max clamp voltage during the
>> surge. The question is what should be the value of the resistor between
>> the TVS and the high-side collector.
> 
> 
> Zero?

When the surge is negative with respect to the collector, the situation 
is under control: it will be clamped to 29V and the transistor can 
withstand 50V. If the surge is positive, the PNP will be driven into the 
reverse active region with sort of 5V V_EBO. I can't find the TVS 
forward voltage at the I_MAX and so I assumed it would be prudent to 
limit the I_C a bit. Indeed, zero was my initial approach, but then some 
afterthoughts started coming.

> We like TPIC6595 whan we need a lot of current-sinking drivers from an
> FPGA. It's very rugged, controlled avalanche.

I love the part. FYI, you can make 8 flybacks using the TPIC6595 by 
modulating the OE. Works OK up to a MHz: I gave up here, maybe it still 
can go faster. The snubber is built-in, you just connect the transformer 
and call it a day.

But since a PNP per channel is one part to add to the board and the 
pre-biased dual is one part as well, just by connecting pins 5 and 6 you 
end up with a logic-level-driven high-side switch, eliminating the HV 
shift register from the BOM. And the board must be small, so it matters.

	Best regards, Piotr