https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/ -- I yam what I yam - Popeye
scary video of battery fire
Started by ●February 18, 2022
Reply by ●February 18, 20222022-02-18
On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:09:02 PM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/Anthony Watts gets paid to push climate change denial propaganda, paid for by the fossil carbon extraction industry. They've got an obvious interest in persuading people to keep on driving gasoline-powered cars - it's an appreciable chunk of their market - which does lead them to push silly claims about how dangerous electric cars might be. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:08:51 -0800) it happened jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <ion01hdrl7ff2on102gom6lhqanimapctt@4ax.com>:> >https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/That is why I use Lifepo4 type batteries when possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 7:09:02 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/It is video. It is fire. And, apparently, JL is scared of a fire in mid-Atlantic. But, there's no known cause of the fire.
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
On 19/02/2022 03:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> > https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/I didn't get past the first paragraph. Quote "EV battery fires are chemically comparable to thermite fires, hot enough to melt steel, so there may not be much left to analyse by the time the ship fire finally burns itself out." An extrapolation too far. There are quite a few reports on the internet of investigations into EV battery fires. The temperatures reached are around 1000°C, perhaps 1200°C in some cases. That's not enough to melt steel, just to soften and weaken it. Thermite reaches around 2500°C, which is not too far off the /boiling/ point of iron. The chemistry of combustion is entirely different too. -- Jeff
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 05:08:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:>On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:08:51 -0800) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><ion01hdrl7ff2on102gom6lhqanimapctt@4ax.com>: > >> >>https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/ > >That is why I use Lifepo4 type batteries when possible: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery >Yes and even Tesla is starting to usw LiFePo4 in some of their cars.
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: ===========================================> > https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/ >** Sweet dreams ..... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/04/tesla-fire/ ..... Phil
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
lørdag den 19. februar 2022 kl. 04.09.02 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:> https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/ >I thought you weren't scared of anything?
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 3:05:06 AM UTC-5, Jeff Layman wrote:> On 19/02/2022 03:08, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > > > > https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/ > > I didn't get past the first paragraph. Quote "EV battery fires are > chemically comparable to thermite fires, hot enough to melt steel, so > there may not be much left to analyse by the time the ship fire finally > burns itself out." > > An extrapolation too far. There are quite a few reports on the internet > of investigations into EV battery fires. The temperatures reached are > around 1000°C, perhaps 1200°C in some cases. That's not enough to melt > steel, just to soften and weaken it. Thermite reaches around 2500°C, > which is not too far off the /boiling/ point of iron. The chemistry of > combustion is entirely different too.Adiabatic flame temperature (constant pressure) of common fuels Gasoline Air 2138 °C "Burning gasoline has a temperature above 1500° E (945° C). Therefore, it can heat objects in the fire area above its ignition temperature. To prevent reignition after extinguishment, the agent should be applied for sufficient time to allow hot objects in the fire area to cool below the ignition temperature of the gasoline." Sounds like a very dangerous fuel to use in passenger cars you carry your children in. Good thing we are getting rid of it. We can keep it in lawnmowers where it's safe. https://www.google.com/search?q=lawnmower+fire&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjY1uTg-4v2AhXrq3IEHaA_DMIQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=923&bih=497&dpr=1.94 -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●February 19, 20222022-02-19
On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 3:17:47 AM UTC-5, boB wrote:> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 05:08:10 GMT, Jan Panteltje > <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:08:51 -0800) it happened > >jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in > ><ion01hdrl7ff2on10...@4ax.com>: > > > >> > >>https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/02/18/was-the-felicity-ace-fire-caused-by-electric-vehicle-batteries/ > > > >That is why I use Lifepo4 type batteries when possible: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery > > > Yes and even Tesla is starting to usw LiFePo4 in some of their cars.It has nothing to do with fires. They are cheaper and don't use Cobalt, a material that is not so easy to come by. They still use nickel-cobalt-aluminum in the long range cars because it has a higher energy density. Neither battery chemistry has a problem with fire when compared to the highly dangerous gasoline powered vehicles. https://www.google.com/search?q=pinto+fires&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjpoPaj_Yv2AhXxoHIEHdZiCGcQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=923&bih=497&dpr=1.94 -- Rick C. + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
