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Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn't, and Why It Matters

Started by Joe Gwinn November 29, 2021
On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 8:00:45 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:37:34 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 5:59:37 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:20:19 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 00:31:29 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 8:40:54 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Climate Science tells us that we were all dead 20 years ago. > > > > > > > > > >No, it doesn't. > > > > >Lots of folk, however, WERE dead 20 years ago; maybe you've just mistaken > > > > >which group 'we' are in? > > > > The great thing about climatology is that you can be all wrong but > > > > still have a lucrative career for 20 years or so, sometimes a lot > > > > more. > > > > > > > > Has anyone driven the west side highway in Manhattan lately? In a boat? > > > > > Not since Hurricane Sandy (when it did get submerged). This does seem to be the sort of thing that Hansen has predicted (in broad terms) back in 1988 and some reporting clown had misunderstood to be a prediction of a persistent state. The climate change denial propaganda machine does seem to have latched onto this misrepresentation ( and others). > > > > > > John Larkin is much too vain to admit that he has been conned. > > > > Hey Sloman, Hansen wasn't talking about a brief flooding, he was talking PERMANENT. > > That's what the reporter may have thought, but Hansen is rather too good at his job to have said anything that silly, though jdiots like you and John Larkin may chose to believe otherwise. > > Hansen has - much more recently - suggested that the IPCC is being a little too optimistic about sea level rise there is something like ten metres of sea level rise tied up in the Greenland and west Antarctic ice sheets, and when they sllde off into the sea this may happen quite fast, but there's no sigh that it has started happening yet. > > -- > SNIPPERMAN, Sydney
Hey SNIPPERMAN, a broken water main can flood a highway - this is not a particularly insightful prediction. So, NO, Hansen was talking flooding by sea-level rise. BTW, you are such an "idiot" that you can't even SPELL THE FUCKING WORD, imbecile!
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:48:36 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 8:00:45 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:37:34 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 5:59:37 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:20:19 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 00:31:29 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 8:40:54 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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> > > > > Has anyone driven the west side highway in Manhattan lately? In a boat? > > > > > > > Not since Hurricane Sandy (when it did get submerged). This does seem to be the sort of thing that Hansen has predicted (in broad terms) back in 1988 and some reporting clown had misunderstood to be a prediction of a persistent state. The climate change denial propaganda machine does seem to have latched onto this misrepresentation ( and others). > > > > > > > > John Larkin is much too vain to admit that he has been conned. > > > > > > Hey Sloman, Hansen wasn't talking about a brief flooding, he was talking PERMANENT. > > > > That's what the reporter may have thought, but Hansen is rather too good at his job to have said anything that silly, though jdiots like you and John Larkin may chose to believe otherwise. > > > > Hansen has - much more recently - suggested that the IPCC is being a little too optimistic about sea level rise there is something like ten metres of sea level rise tied up in the Greenland and west Antarctic ice sheets, and when they sllde off into the sea this may happen quite fast, but there's no sigh that it has started happening yet. > > > Hey Sloman, a broken water main can flood a highway - this is not a particularly insightful prediction. So, NO, Hansen was talking flooding by sea-level rise.
Hurricane Sandy did raise the local sea level quire a bit - enough to submerge bits of the west side highway in Manhattan. That's a lot more water than a burst water main. It;s called a "storm surge". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953 is and example. It killed 1836 people in the Netherlands, 307 in England, 28 in Belgium and 19 in Scotland. Sandy only killed 233.
> BTW, you are such an "idiot" that you can't even SPELL THE FUCKING WORD, imbecile!
And Flyguy is a such an idiot that he thinks it worth his while to sound off about typos. He may even be right. He can't post anything of substance, so he's reduced to quibbling about typos. The fact that he is outing himself as a trivial troll has escaped him. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney