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OT: OZ had COVID concentration camps

Started by Flyguy November 24, 2021
Yes, the are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html
On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 14:38:52 -0800 (PST), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yes, the are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights. >https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html
There's a fee too. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
On Wednesday, 24 November 2021 at 14:38:55 UTC-8, Flyguy wrote:
> Yes, the are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights. > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html
On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 9:38:55 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> Yes, there are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html
Flyguy is persistently stupid. Quarantine laws got a back a long way - centuries - and keeping people in isolation for a fortnight so they don't go out and potentially infect the rest of the population is just one of the many ways in which idiots like Flyguy are prevented from endangering everybody else. Civil rights are always constrained by the interests of the rest of the population. My freedom to swing my fist stops at the end of your nose. Flyguy is much too stupid to understand any of this. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 9:18:04 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 9:38:55 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > Yes, there are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights. > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html > > Flyguy is persistently stupid. Quarantine laws got a back a long way - centuries - and keeping people in isolation for a fortnight so they don't go out and potentially infect the rest of the population is just one of the many ways in which idiots like Flyguy are prevented from endangering everybody else. > > Civil rights are always constrained by the interests of the rest of the population. My freedom to swing my fist stops at the end of your nose. > > Flyguy is much too stupid to understand any of this. > > -- > SNIPPERMAN, Sydney
SNIPPERMAN agrees that OZ is running concentration camps. I mean, how could he disagree, it's a matter of public record? So, he does his usual childish trick: he attacks me w/o any basis. Hitler, also, "suspended" human rights and look where that got him.
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 6:44:42 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 9:18:04 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 9:38:55 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > Yes, there are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights. > > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html > > > > Flyguy is persistently stupid. Quarantine laws got a back a long way - centuries - and keeping people in isolation for a fortnight so they don't go out and potentially infect the rest of the population is just one of the many ways in which idiots like Flyguy are prevented from endangering everybody else. > > > > Civil rights are always constrained by the interests of the rest of the population. My freedom to swing my fist stops at the end of your nose. > > > > Flyguy is much too stupid to understand any of this. > > Sloman agrees that OZ is running concentration camps.
I didn' t and don't. https://www.britannica.com/topic/concentration-camp emphasises the point that " civilians have been concentrated in camps to prevent them from engaging in guerrilla warfare or providing aid to enemy forces or simply as a means of terrorizing the populace into submission." Quarantine camps aren't concentration camps. They are places where potentially infectious people are kept isolated from one another and the rest of the population for a short time - 14 days in the case of Covid-14 - after which they are free to get on with their lives. The fact that Australia finally has proper quarantine camps, rather than sticking new arrivals in hotels (where they had a nasty habit of infecting one another) is a step in the right direction.
> I mean, how could he disagree, it's a matter of public record?
The public record doesn't call them concentration camps. What Flyguy chooses to call them is up to him, and he is a deliberately offensive twit.
> So, he does his usual childish trick: he attacks me w/o any basis. Hitler, also, "suspended" human rights and look where that got him.
Human rights have never included exemption from quarantine. Flyguy does like to keep thing simple, and leaving out historical reality makes life much easier for him. I'm not so much attacking him, as pointing out his inadequacies, but that's the sort of subtle distinction that is quite beyond Flyguy. There's nothing childish about about pointing out that Flyguy is stupid - the true depths of his stupidity are remarkable, and it takes persistent exposure to his nonsense for it to become obvious that he hasn't just overlooked the occasional detail but rather lacks the capacity to cope anything but the bare minimum of information, and has a remarkable capacity to misunderstand even that. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 25/11/2021 8:38 am, Flyguy wrote:
> Yes, the are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy without a constitutional bill of rights. > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html >
Not to put too fine a point on it but, you're an hysterical idiot who believes any trash presented to him.
On a sunny day (Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:26:03 +1000) it happened David Eather
<eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote in
<16bbaedf6e7c06a6$1$1263013$c2765afb@news.newsdemon.com>:

>On 25/11/2021 8:38 am, Flyguy wrote: >> Yes, the are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. >> So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy >> without a constitutional bill of rights. >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html >> > >Not to put too fine a point on it but, you're an hysterical idiot who >believes any trash presented to him.
It is time to stop the idiot slave believers of the Medical Industrial Complex sales propaganda who are blocking normal life. https://www.rt.com/sport/541515-football-players-collapsing-debate/ We now know some covid vaccines can cause heart inflammation Not a word about it in that article Deny vaccine side effects to not disencourage the sales of the Medical Industrial Complex. Make covid look really bad (its not wore than the flue) to increase sales by the Medical Industrial Complex and increase control by its bribed clueless politicians in power.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 9:52:23 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:26:03 +1000) it happened David Eather > <eatREM...@tpg.com.au> wrote in > <16bbaedf6e7c06a6$1$1263013$c276...@news.newsdemon.com>: > >On 25/11/2021 8:38 am, Flyguy wrote: > >> Yes, the are actual concentration camps. One is operational and more are on the way. This applies even to vaccinated people. > >> So, how do civil rights are reconciled against mandatory detention? Answer: they are ignored. This is what happens in a monarchy > >> without a constitutional bill of rights. > >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html > >> > > > >Not to put too fine a point on it but, you're an hysterical idiot who believes any trash presented to him. > > It is time to stop the idiot slave believers of the Medical Industrial Complex sales propaganda who are blocking normal life.
The medical-industrial complex didn't invent Covid-19, and it is idiots like you who want to return to normal life before we've got enough of the population vaccinated to stop it spreading. You may think you have every right to believe and nonsense you like, but when it starts killing other people you will find that you have to contain your credulity.
> https://www.rt.com/sport/541515-football-players-collapsing-debate/
Russian Today isn't a particularly reliable news source.
> We now know some covid vaccines can cause heart inflammation.
It's fairly rare - about 60 per million for the mRNA vaccines - and doesn't last.
> Not a word about it in that article.
Why would Russia Today bother spelling it out even if they knew about it?
> Deny vaccine side effects to not discourage the sales of the Medical Industrial Complex.
Russia Today might pay attention to the interests of the Russian medical industrial complex, but I don't think that they sell an mRNA vaccine - Sputnik seems more like the Astra-Zeneca approach.
> Make covid look really bad (its not worse than the flue)
Covid-19 kills a lot more young and health people than any flu since the Spanish flu - most people get over it fast, but even bad flu seasons haven't overloaded intensive care wards in the way we've seen Covid-19 outbreaks do.
> to increase sales by the Medical Industrial Complex and increase control by its bribed clueless politicians in power.
Nitwit. And a dangerously ill-informed nitwit at that. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sunday, 28 November 2021 at 04:35:50 UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 9:52:23 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
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> > > We now know some covid vaccines can cause heart inflammation. > > It's fairly rare - about 60 per million for the mRNA vaccines - and doesn't last.
... The covid infection itself has a probability in the tens of thousands per million for developing severe illness including heart inflammation, even if it doesn't result in hospitalization due directly to covid. You can reduce the chances of myocarditis by a huge factor by having the vaccine. https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/heart-inflammation-covid-19-and-the-rare-side-effects-of-the-vaccine/2021/09 kw