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OT: Left-handedness.

Started by Anthony William Sloman November 23, 2021
Today's issue of the Proceedings of the (US)  National Academy of Sciences had a paper that all left-handers will find interesting, though it doesn't say all that much.

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/47/e2113095118.full.pdf

About 10% of the population is left-handed, but you tend to find more of them amongst engineers - I'm left-handed and one team of ten engineers that I supervised included five left-handers.

Simon Fisher is one of the guys who identified the FOXP2 gene, which was the first gene linked to a language defect. I've met him ...

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> Today's issue of the Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences had a paper that all left-handers will find interesting, though it doesn't say all that much. > > https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/47/e2113095118.full.pdf > > About 10% of the population is left-handed, but you tend to find more of them amongst engineers - I'm left-handed and one team of ten engineers that I supervised included five left-handers. > > Simon Fisher is one of the guys who identified the FOXP2 gene, which was the first gene linked to a language defect. I've met him ... >
They tend to be more intelligent. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 10:55:01 AM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote:
> Anthony William Sloman wrote: > > Today's issue of the Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences had a paper that all left-handers will find interesting, though it doesn't say all that much. > > > > https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/47/e2113095118.full.pdf > > > > About 10% of the population is left-handed, but you tend to find more of them amongst engineers - I'm left-handed and one team of ten engineers that I supervised included five left-handers. > > > > Simon Fisher is one of the guys who identified the FOXP2 gene, which was the first gene linked to a language defect. I've met him ... > > They tend to be more intelligent.
Not a claim that I've seen. My take on the situation is that the brain-editing that makes right-handers a lot more right-handed than left-handers are left-handed emphasises language processing skills at the expense of visual skills. Engineering and graphic design call on those visual processing skills, so left-handers do well in these areas. Simon Fisher says that there's a lot of anecdotal evidence about left-handers showing up more frequently in particular occupations. He didn't say that the data-bases used by the paper record that sort of data. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 11/25/2021 7:05 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 10:55:01 AM UTC+11, Robert Baer wrote: >> Anthony William Sloman wrote: >>> Today's issue of the Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences had a paper that all left-handers will find interesting, though it doesn't say all that much. >>> >>> https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/118/47/e2113095118.full.pdf >>> >>> About 10% of the population is left-handed, but you tend to find more of them amongst engineers - I'm left-handed and one team of ten engineers that I supervised included five left-handers. >>> >>> Simon Fisher is one of the guys who identified the FOXP2 gene, which was the first gene linked to a language defect. I've met him ... >> >> They tend to be more intelligent. > > Not a claim that I've seen. My take on the situation is that the brain-editing that makes right-handers a lot more right-handed than left-handers are left-handed emphasises language processing skills at the expense of visual skills. Engineering and graphic design call on those visual processing skills, so left-handers do well in these areas. > > Simon Fisher says that there's a lot of anecdotal evidence about left-handers showing up more frequently in particular occupations. He didn't say that the data-bases used by the paper record that sort of data. >
My late father was a lefty, worked in personal banking most of his life. Somewhat ambidextrous though, he wrote (smudging the paper) and batted and fired a rifle left-handed, though sometimes he'd use a knife and fork as a righty would. He could write about equally as "well" with his right hand also, but he grew up at the time the nun in school would still rap your hand with a ruler if she caught you writing left-handed, so I think he kept writing left-handed a bit out of defiance, despite the paper-smudging. Visually he seemed very good for his age when he was older and he was better at the "claw" game at the arcade than anyone I've known, we had to start giving away all the stuffed toys he won for a quarter each, rarely missed the target. I figured it might have to do with him being a mortarman in the Army
IEEE  Bill.
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 > I'm left-handed

** And left winged.

On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 12:08:40 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> IEEE Bill. > ============ > > > I'm left-handed > > ** And left winged.
From Phi's radical right point of view. If it isn't endorsed on Sky News, it isn't right-wing enough to keep him happy. I don't recall him endorsing Donald Trump, but he has all the other hall-marks of a lunatic right-winger. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
 IEEE Bill the Lefty loon 
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> > > > > I'm left-handed > > > > ** And left winged. > > From Phi's radical right point of view.
** FOAD you absurd pile of autism.
On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 4:23:49 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> IEEE Bill the Lefty loon > ================ > > > > > > > I'm left-handed > > > > > > ** And left winged. > > > > From Phi's radical right point of view.If it isn't endorsed on Sky News, it isn't right-wing enough to keep him happy.
I don't recall him endorsing Donald Trump, but he has all the other hall-marks of a lunatic right-winger.
> > ** FOAD you absurd pile of autism.
Phil's ideas about autism are pretty silly too. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
 IEEE Bill the Lefty loon 
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> > > > > > > > I'm left-handed > > > > > > > > ** And left winged. > > > > > > From Phi's radical right point of view.If it isn't endorsed on Sky News, it isn't right-wing enough to keep him happy. >
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> > ** FOAD you absurd pile of autism. > > Phil's ideas about autism are pretty silly too.
** It's fucking * spot on * with a geriatric, poster boy for ASD like you. Mad lefties are ALL autistic narcissists, every one.
On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 6:47:30 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> IEEE Bill the Lefty loon > ================ > > > > > > > > > > I'm left-handed > > > > > > > > > > ** And left winged. > > > > > > > > From Phi's radical right point of view.If it isn't endorsed on Sky News, it isn't right-wing enough to keep him happy. > > > > > > > ** FOAD you absurd pile of autism. > > > > Phil's ideas about autism are pretty silly too. > ** It's fucking * spot on * with a geriatric, poster boy for ASD like you. > > Mad lefties are ALL autistic narcissists, every one.
Not an opinion you would get from a clinician. Autism is all about being bad a picking up social signals, so a narcissist with autism would have trouble working out when they were being admired, which would make it difficult for them to get into the habit of demanding admiration. And why lefties would be any different from righties in this respect is also an open question. In fact, it is just Phil over-using using the few terms of abuse he has bothered to master. It's not really worth worrying about, but if I wasn't rude back the poor dear would feel neglected. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney