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OT. Veteran's Day

Started by Dean Hoffman November 11, 2021
The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> 
Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown 
Soldier. 
   
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 04:52:33 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. ><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> >Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown >Soldier. >
Nice. But can a bunch of distant people sing together? Time lag could complicate things. -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 04:52:33 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman > <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote: > >>The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. >><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> >>Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The >>Unknown Soldier. >> > > Nice. > > But can a bunch of distant people sing together? Time lag could > complicate things. > > >
During the covid response by us sane folk, the networks came up with an app that gives time stamps to the individual players and what we see is the final production pieced together perfectly. I think CBS and Stephen Colbert pioneered it, now everyone does it. All synced up perfectly.
On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> > Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown > Soldier. > >
And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" THAT's a "big lie": <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html> They just call them "operations" now...
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:48:33 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
> On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: > > The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> > > Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown > > Soldier. > > > > > And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" THAT's a > "big lie": > > <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> > > <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html> > > They just call them "operations" now...
Wars are declared, but you wouldn't know that. An Operation is not a war.
On 11/15/2021 3:25 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:48:33 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote: >> On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>> The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> >>> Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown >>> Soldier. >>> >>> >> And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" THAT's a >> "big lie": >> >> <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> >> >> <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html> >> >> They just call them "operations" now... > > Wars are declared, but you wouldn't know that. An Operation is not a war. >
No, there isn't a word that captures the concept of "Just blowing up random people around the world because someone thinks they're up to no good and missing the intended target regularly, anyway" adequately, I agree. Thug life?
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
> On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: > > The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> > > Today marks 100 years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown > > Soldier. > > > > > And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" THAT's a > "big lie": > > <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> > > <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html> > > They just call them "operations" now...
This, and one other source said the U.S. has been in 11 declared wars. The last declared war was WWII against several countries. <https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bennyjohnson/the-11-countries-congress-has-declared-war-on-and-why>
Dean Hoffman wrote:
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote: >> On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>> The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> Today marks 100 >>> years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier. >>> >>> >> And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" >> THAT's a "big lie": >> >> <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> >> >> >>
<https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html>
>> >> They just call them "operations" now... > > This, and one other source said the U.S. has been in 11 declared > wars. The last declared war was WWII against several countries. > <https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bennyjohnson/the-11-countries-congress-has-declared-war-on-and-why>
The experience of three total wars(*) has changed things some. Back in the palmy days before 1914 (when our civilization fell), you could declare war and make peace when it suited you, and generally act as though Clausewitz had been right when he famously said that 'war is policy extended by additional means" ("Der Krieg ist die Fortsetzung der Politik unter Einmischung anderer Mittel") 'tain't so simple nowadays. Cheers Phil Hobbs (*) The "War between the States" was a total war that foreshadowed many aspects of WWI, but very few people were watching that carefully. -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
On 11/15/2021 5:51 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> Dean Hoffman wrote: >> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote: >>> On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>> The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> Today marks 100 >>>> years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier. >>>> >>>> >>> And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" >>> THAT's a "big lie": >>> >>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> >>> >>> >>> > <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html> > >>> >>> They just call them "operations" now... >> >> This, and one other source said the U.S. has been in 11 declared >> wars.&nbsp;&nbsp; The last declared war was WWII against several countries. >> <https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bennyjohnson/the-11-countries-congress-has-declared-war-on-and-why> >> > > The experience of three total wars(*) has changed things some. > > Back in the palmy days before 1914 (when our civilization fell), you > could declare war and make peace when it suited you, and generally act > as though Clausewitz had been right when he famously said that 'war is > policy extended by additional means"&nbsp; ("Der Krieg ist die Fortsetzung > der Politik unter Einmischung anderer Mittel") > > 'tain't so simple nowadays. > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs > > (*) The "War between the States" was a total war that foreshadowed many > aspects of WWI, but very few people were watching that carefully.
Hard to think of a time since then when the US hasn't conducted an "operation" just about any time it suited the people who decide who gets operated on. Which often doesn't seem to include Congress
On 11/15/2021 6:17 PM, bitrex wrote:
> On 11/15/2021 5:51 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> Dean Hoffman wrote: >>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote: >>>> On 11/11/2021 7:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>>> The Singing Sergeants, Lee Greenwood, and Home Free. >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0fxy8rHo8> Today marks 100 >>>>> years since the dedication of the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> And it was the first Veterans day in 20 years "without a war" >>>> THAT's a "big lie": >>>> >>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/biden-veterans-day.html> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> <https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/politics/us-pakistan-afghanistan-airspace/index.html> >> >>>> >>>> They just call them "operations" now... >>> >>> This, and one other source said the U.S. has been in 11 declared >>> wars.&nbsp;&nbsp; The last declared war was WWII against several countries. >>> <https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bennyjohnson/the-11-countries-congress-has-declared-war-on-and-why> >>> >> >> The experience of three total wars(*) has changed things some. >> >> Back in the palmy days before 1914 (when our civilization fell), you >> could declare war and make peace when it suited you, and generally act >> as though Clausewitz had been right when he famously said that 'war is >> policy extended by additional means"&nbsp; ("Der Krieg ist die Fortsetzung >> der Politik unter Einmischung anderer Mittel") >> >> 'tain't so simple nowadays. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs >> >> (*) The "War between the States" was a total war that foreshadowed >> many aspects of WWI, but very few people were watching that carefully. > > Hard to think of a time since then when the US hasn't conducted an > "operation" just about any time it suited the people who decide who gets > operated on. Which often doesn't seem to include Congress >
Though no doubt some consider that state of affairs "efficient." Really cuts out the middle-man!