On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:11:37 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The dryer here seems to be plugged into a 120V outlet. It's also on an > > extension cord. Anyone see anything like that before? > fire investigators probably come across this often. > > I suppose it's actually a 240V connector which is the same size as a > > standard 120V connector but having one or more pins turned 90 degrees. > > Still, those aren't very high current. > Open the door and read the name plate. Specs will be there.I think I took a look, but the light is poor and the print is small. I don't care that much. I'll try again in the daylight.> To decode the outlet lookup these NEMA receptacle designations > > 5-15R > 5-20R > 6-15R > 6-20RI'm familiar with NEMA. I'm not crawling around on my hands and knees and unplugging someone else's equipment. The cables are all behind some obstructions and there's something that could be an outlet expander OR could be a "thing" to turn a pair of outlets wired with the two halves of a 240V circuit to present a 240V outlet. When I return I will take a look to see if the copper tube I saw is a water line or a gas line. That would tell all! It's something like 3/4 inch I think. I thought it was water, but might be gas! -- Rick C. --++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging --++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Anyone hear of a 120V clothes dryer?
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: ============================> > I would make a machine that takes longer but uses far less energy.** No you wouldn't. Such a machine would use even more. ...... Phil
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tirsdag den 5. oktober 2021 kl. 00.38.00 UTC+2 skrev gnuarm.del...@gmail.com:> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 5:39:06 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote: > > mandag den 4. oktober 2021 kl. 23.22.19 UTC+2 skrev gnuarm.del...@gmail.com: > > > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 1:33:34 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote: > > > > mandag den 4. oktober 2021 kl. 19.27.55 UTC+2 skrev bitrex: > > > > > On 10/4/2021 4:55 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > On 04-Oct-21 7:27 pm, Rob wrote: > > > > > >> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>> The dryer here seems to be plugged into a 120V outlet. It's also on > > > > > >>> an extension cord. Anyone see anything like that before? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I suppose it's actually a 240V connector which is the same size as a > > > > > >>> standard 120V connector but having one or more pins turned 90 > > > > > >>> degrees. Still, those aren't very high current. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Over here in Europe we have clothes dryers that use heat pumping > > > > > >> instead of electric heating. They use like 700-1000W of power so > > > > > >> they could easily work from a standard 120V socket. > > > > > > > > > > > > They no doubt save energy, but at what cost? They don't sound economic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sylvia. > > > > > They make these portable dishwashers also, you can wash literally about > > > > > 5 dishes in them: > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttYboBVP0EE> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not so un-ameniable to "women's work" that I can't hand-wash 5 > > > > > dishes and some knives and forks. Loading and programming the machine > > > > > probably takes longer, anyway. > > > > but it saves water and things get cleaner .. > > > It saves how much water...? You can only save what is being used by hand washing which isn't much for five plates and some silver. If hand washing gets them clean, how can the washer get them "cleaner"? Is this like a volume control that goes to 11? > > > > > do you have a dishwasher? try it > Try what? How do I measure the water the dishwasher uses???afaik it is required to use less than 5 gallons, EnergyStar ~3 gallons those who tried it came to the conclusion that doing the same load by hand take 5-10 times as much and the water is hotter and the detergent more effective so the dishes get cleaner
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On 10/4/2021 2:19 PM, Don Y wrote:> So if I use my dryer 1 hr a week, (I use it more). That would be > 7.2kWH per week > > 7.2kWh x $0.15 = $1.08 a week x 52 weeks = $56.16.In reality I can > see over $100 a year to run my dryer.So, I"ll use 5400 watts and say it is a 75% duty cycle, (lower setting) call it 4050 watts continuous. 4.05kWH x $0.15 = 0.6075 a week x 52 = $31.52 If used 1 hour a week. 3 in my household, I can see 4 loads about 30 minutes each, towels are more, I use 5 heavy towels in my sauna each week. So 2 hours of use would put me at $63. Anyway the point of my comment was, a dryer cost more than $12 a year to run. I did look for power consumption of dryers and they ran from 2000 to 6000 watts. I also checked my breaker box, the breaker to my dryer is 30 amps. I though it was bigger. Mikek -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> writes:> Of course it is. If your basement is getting warm, you don't have > enough ventilation. I assume you're talking about cooling season, so > you might consider running an A/C instead of dehumidifier.We're between seasons; the dehumidifyer is a 24/7 version that runs all year long (although it cycles less often in the winter, of course) to protect my shop tools from rust and keep the wood humidity more constant. The geothermal system has a few vents in the basement to help with temperature.
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My house actually has electronics to measure power consumption on each circuit. Monthly cost based on the last 22 days: Fridge $7.56 Freezer, dehumidifier, and ice maker (all on same circuit) $36.52 Washer $0.23 Dryer (three adults) $7.80 Geothermal $33.76 (we're between seasons, used a bit of cooling) Well (includes geothermal's use) $25.32 office minisplit $8.23 Computers $211.64
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On 10/4/2021 8:34 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:> My house actually has electronics to measure power consumption on each > circuit. Monthly cost based on the last 22 days: > > > Dryer (three adults) $7.80That comes to $129 per year.> > Computers $211.64Maybe I should start shutting mine off! It's been on since 2011. Ok, ya, an occasional reboot, but I don't shut it off. It does sleep though. Mikek -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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On 10/4/2021 6:34 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:> > My house actually has electronics to measure power consumption on each > circuit. Monthly cost based on the last 22 days: > > Fridge $7.56 > Freezer, dehumidifier, and ice maker (all on same circuit) $36.52 > Washer $0.23 > Dryer (three adults) $7.80 > Geothermal $33.76 (we're between seasons, used a bit of cooling) > Well (includes geothermal's use) $25.32 > office minisplit $8.23 > > Computers $211.64What do you pay per KWHr (as that can be all over the map!)? E.g., the central air conditioner would consume considerably more than a minisplit-per-room (you only cool one room?)
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On 10/4/2021 6:51 PM, amdx wrote:> On 10/4/2021 8:34 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> My house actually has electronics to measure power consumption on each >> circuit. Monthly cost based on the last 22 days:-------------^^^^^^^^^^^^>> Dryer (three adults) $7.80 > > That comes to $129 per year.Assuming he's already normalized those 22 day figures to a 30 day month, that comes to $93.60/year.>> Computers $211.64 > > Maybe I should start shutting mine off! It's been on since 2011.Most PCs + monitor draw < 200W when not "sleeping". Printers (laser) are the typical big loads in a home office. Switches are the most constant (never off) loads -- though you can buy "green" switches.> Ok, ya, an occasional reboot, but I don't shut it off. It does sleep though.This machine never sleeps (because one of us is typically using it or it is busy downloading something. UPS claims it draws 27W (AiO) -- but I suspect that is a low number. I keep a USFF under a dresser for my network services (DNS, TFTP, NTP, etc.). I think it's in the 10W range (headless). So, a KWHr every 4 days -- 25c/wk? I'm sure the switches use a fair bit more than that!
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On 2021/10/04 2:55 p.m., Rick C wrote:> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote: >> On 2021/10/04 12:30 a.m., Rick C wrote: >>> The dryer here seems to be plugged into a 120V outlet. It's also on an extension cord. Anyone see anything like that before? >>> >>> I suppose it's actually a 240V connector which is the same size as a standard 120V connector but having one or more pins turned 90 degrees. Still, those aren't very high current. >>> >> 26 of them at Home Depot: >> >> https://www.homedepot.com/b/Appliances-Washers-Dryers-Dryers-Electric-Dryers/120-volt/N-5yc1vZc3q1Z1z17ja4 > > This one says 15 amps, so it requires a 20 amp circuit? Or are they specifying the circuit capacity? They are not at all clear on the electrical requirement, but they give tons of info on running the duct! Nothing about the connector. But they do say the power cord is included! Just no details on what to plug it into. >20Amps would be fine, however if the machine is rated at 15A and the outlet is the only connection to the breaker then a 15A breaker should work. Treat it like a refrigerator, only a single (not duplex) outlet that only goes to a single breaker - either 15A or 20A. If unsure check with your local electrical codes, my advice is not as a certified Electrician, merely a home electrician who always reads the electrical code books for my province (or state in the USA) when doing work in my home. John :-#)#
