On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > <snip> > > > > They were spelled out in the first post. > > > They weren't. There's a problem when people describe systems that they understand - they leave out stuff that is obvious to them, which isn't remotely obvious to people who don't know the system is supposed to do. You seem to have produced a fairly flagrant example. > > The first post said: > > > > Considering 4 battery banks: > > > > Min 360V, Max 400V > > > > _A_ _B_ _C_ _D_ > > 370 380 390 400 > > 400 390 380 370 > > > > connected with X ohm at Y duty > > > > > > Ignorant person like you keeping arguing with stupid reasoning. > > > > > > I'm ignorant because you did a truly rotten job of describing what you were doing, and the stupidity in your reasoning, is your failure to appreciate quite how inadequate your original post was. Being rude to me isn't a constructive reaction, though it may be as near as you can get to one. > > > > You started with insult, I responded with insult. > > The line <snipped irrelevant detail> wasn't flattering,I simply response in kind.> but asking for current ratings for battery bank connvectors when you didn't tell us what the battery bank was connected to, or why it was connected to whatever it was driving doesn't invite flattering responses.What do you think "balancing" mean? Doesn't matter what they are connected to. If the min and max are 360v and 400v, with the worst case spelled out in this table in THE FIRST POST:> > _A_ _B_ _C_ _D_ > > 370 380 390 400 > > 400 390 380 370> Your reaction wasn't exactly informative - "40V (10A) max from A or D." - and things went downhill from there. Sorry about your learning disability. The range is 40V for either battery A or battery D.
Battery balancing:
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Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:<snip>> > > > > They were spelled out in the first post. > > > > > > > > > They weren't. There's a problem when people describe systems that they understand - they leave out stuff that is obvious to them, which isn't remotely obvious to people who don't know the system is supposed to do. You seem to have produced a fairly flagrant example. > > > > > > > The first post said: > > > > > > Considering 4 battery banks: > > > > > > Min 360V, Max 400V > > > > > > _A_ _B_ _C_ _D_ > > > 370 380 390 400 > > > 400 390 380 370 > > > > > > connected with X ohm at Y duty > > > > > > > > Ignorant person like you keeping arguing with stupid reasoning. > > > > > > > > I'm ignorant because you did a truly rotten job of describing what you were doing, and the stupidity in your reasoning, is your failure to appreciate quite how inadequate your original post was. Being rude to me isn't a constructive reaction, though it may be as near as you can get to one. > > > > > > You started with insult, I responded with insult. > > > > The line <snipped irrelevant detail> wasn't flattering, > > I simply response in kind.You might have answered the question.> > but asking for current ratings for battery bank connectors when you didn't tell us what the battery bank was connected to, or why it was connected to whatever it was driving doesn't invite flattering responses. > > What do you think "balancing" means?There are whole range of possibilities, none of which you've identified > Doesn't matter what they are connected to. If the load needs a lot of current in a short time the wiring is going to have to carry much higher peak currents than a less demanding load. What they are connected to does influence the currents flowing. If they aren't connected to anything, no current flows at all. If the min and max are 360v and 400v, with the worst case spelled out in this table in THE FIRST POST:> > > _A_ _B_ _C_ _D_ > > > 370 380 390 400 > > > 400 390 380 370The worst case of what? A list of voltages doesn't spell out anything.> > Your reaction wasn't exactly informative - "40V (10A) max from A or D." - and things went downhill from there.> Sorry about your learning disability. The range is 40V for either battery A or battery D.That doesn't anything about the currents being shipped around, which is what matters to the connections. The disability on show here is your total failure to understand that you need to tell us more about what you are trying to do - or pretending to try to do - before we have a hope of knowing enough to answer the question that you seem to think you were asking. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > > > They were spelled out in the first post. > > > > > > > > > > > They weren't. There's a problem when people describe systems that they understand - they leave out stuff that is obvious to them, which isn't remotely obvious to people who don't know the system is supposed to do. You seem to have produced a fairly flagrant example. > > > > > > > > > The first post said: > > > > > > > > Considering 4 battery banks: > > > > > > > > Min 360V, Max 400V > > > > > > > > _A_ _B_ _C_ _D_ > > > > 370 380 390 400 > > > > 400 390 380 370 > > > > > > > > connected with X ohm at Y duty > > > > > > > > > > Ignorant person like you keeping arguing with stupid reasoning. > > > > > > > > > > I'm ignorant because you did a truly rotten job of describing what you were doing, and the stupidity in your reasoning, is your failure to appreciate quite how inadequate your original post was. Being rude to me isn't a constructive reaction, though it may be as near as you can get to one. > > > > > > > > You started with insult, I responded with insult. > > > > > > The line <snipped irrelevant detail> wasn't flattering, > > > > I simply response in kind. > You might have answered the question. > > > > but asking for current ratings for battery bank connectors when you didn't tell us what the battery bank was connected to, or why it was connected to whatever it was driving doesn't invite flattering responses. > > > > What do you think "balancing" means? > > There are whole range of possibilities, none of which you've identified > > Doesn't matter what they are connected to. > If the load needs a lot of current in a short time the wiring is going to have to carry much higher peak currents than a less demanding load. What they are connected to does influence the currents flowing. If they aren't connected to anything, no current flows at all. > If the min and max are 360v and 400v, with the worst case spelled out in this table in THE FIRST POST: > > > > _A_ _B_ _C_ _D_ > > > > 370 380 390 400 > > > > 400 390 380 370 > The worst case of what? A list of voltages doesn't spell out anything.Worst case voltage of each battery.> > > Your reaction wasn't exactly informative - "40V (10A) max from A or D." - and things went downhill from there. > > > Sorry about your learning disability. The range is 40V for either battery A or battery D. > That doesn't anything about the currents being shipped around, which is what matters to the connections.In the FIRST POST: "I am wiring up 4 banks of batteries with dip40 pin & zif"> The disability on show here is your total failure to understand that you need to tell us more about what you are trying to do - or pretending to try to do - before we have a hope of knowing enough to answer the question that you seem to think you were asking.Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb.
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:<snip>> Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb.This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > <snip> > > Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb. > This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. > > You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up.You are just avoiding the issue. The point is that you are insulting rather than answering. You are a moron.
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 1:43:52 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb. > > This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. > > > > You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up. > > You are just avoiding the issue. The point is that you are insulting rather than answering. You are a moron.I've yet to see a question which could be answered.That's what I'm complaining about. There's pretty good evidence that I'm not a moron, and quite a lot of evidence that suggests that you aren't quite as clever as you like to think you are, all of it posted here, by you. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:09:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 1:43:52 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb. > > > This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. > > > > > > You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up. > > > > You are just avoiding the issue. The point is that you are insulting rather than answering. You are a moron. > I've yet to see a question which could be answered.The question was IN THE FIRST POST: What wire size is appropriate for wiring up batteries subject to 360V to 450V connected with 1 to 10 ohms at 10% to 50% duty cycle? OK, you are not a moron, you are a jerk.
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On 28.7.21 20.27, Ed Lee wrote:> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:09:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 1:43:52 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>>> Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb. >>>> This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. >>>> >>>> You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up. >>> >>> You are just avoiding the issue. The point is that you are insulting rather than answering. You are a moron. >> I've yet to see a question which could be answered. > > The question was IN THE FIRST POST: > > What wire size is appropriate for wiring up batteries subject to 360V to 450V connected with 1 to 10 ohms at 10% to 50% duty cycle? > > OK, you are not a moron, you are a jerk.Ed: Wire size has to be determined by current, not voltage. Voltage determines the insulation requirements. If we interpret that you have a 360 to 450 volt supply feeding pulsed 1 to 10 ohm load at 10% to 50% duty cycle, the spec is too vague to answer. To be on the safe side, one had to answer for the wire size for 450 A current, and that is obvoiusly what you do not want. -- -TV
Reply by ●July 28, 20212021-07-28
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 11:09:52 AM UTC-7, Tauno Voipio wrote:> On 28.7.21 20.27, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:09:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 1:43:52 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > >>>> > >>>> <snip> > >>>>> Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb. > >>>> This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. > >>>> > >>>> You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up. > >>> > >>> You are just avoiding the issue. The point is that you are insulting rather than answering. You are a moron. > >> I've yet to see a question which could be answered. > > > > The question was IN THE FIRST POST: > > > > What wire size is appropriate for wiring up batteries subject to 360V to 450V connected with 1 to 10 ohms at 10% to 50% duty cycle? > > > > OK, you are not a moron, you are a jerk. > Ed: Wire size has to be determined by current, not voltage. Voltage > determines the insulation requirements. > > If we interpret that you have a 360 to 450 volt supply feeding pulsed > 1 to 10 ohm load at 10% to 50% duty cycle, the spec is too vague to > answer. To be on the safe side, one had to answer for the wire size > for 450 A current, and that is obvoiusly what you do not want.The power source/drain and batteries are both limited between 360V and 400V. So, there is only a maximum of 40V differences. As the batteries are connected with 1 ohm x 4. The max. current is 40V/4ohm = 10A at 10% duty.
Reply by ●July 29, 20212021-07-29
On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:59:21 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 11:09:52 AM UTC-7, Tauno Voipio wrote: > > On 28.7.21 20.27, Ed Lee wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:09:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 1:43:52 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:32:14 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 7:24:55 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:18:03 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:26:05 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:59:52 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 3:02:45 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:59:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:36:44 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 1:23:41 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:55:52 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 11:14:31 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:<snip>> > >>>>> Well, i didn't realize the reader is so dumb. > > >>>>> > > >>>> This particular reader isn't all that impressed by the writer's communication skills. At the moment you've had exactly one other reader, and he was responding to a rather more specific question "Is AWG 22 good enough for 10A@10%? " which still happens to be a pretty dumb question. > > >>>> > > >>>> You can comfort yourself with the idea that we should have been able to understand what you were asking, but it won't get you anywhere where you want to end up. > > >>> > > >>> You are just avoiding the issue. The point is that you are insulting rather than answering. You are a moron. > > >>> > > >> I've yet to see a question which could be answered. > > > > > > The question was IN THE FIRST POST: > > > > > > What wire size is appropriate for wiring up batteries subject to 360V to 450V connected with 1 to 10 ohms at 10% to 50% duty cycle?<snip>> > > Ed: Wire size has to be determined by current, not voltage. Voltage determines the insulation requirements. > > > > > > If we interpret that you have a 360 to 450 volt supply feeding pulsed > > 1 to 10 ohm load at 10% to 50% duty cycle, the spec is too vague to > > answer. To be on the safe side, one had to answer for the wire size > > for 450 A current, and that is obviously what you do not want. > > The power source/drain and batteries are both limited between 360V and 400V. So, there is only a maximum of 40V differences. As the batteries are connected with 1 ohm x 4. The max. current is 40V/4ohm = 10A at 10% duty.Where did the 10% duty cycle come from? And what imposes the limits on the voltages? Your assertions look as half-baked as your original question, and it does seem that we need to try to get you to think harder about about you are trying to do. Our chances of getting you to do that can't be high. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
