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Pence should be protected to avoid constitutional crisis

Started by Unknown October 5, 2020
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), >> >> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&#2013266066;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&#2013266066;t just bad judgement. It&#2013266066;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&#2013266066;s chain-of-command when you&#2013266066;ve got an election to win?" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >> >> > >> >> >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ >> >> Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, >> >> every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did >> >> squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. >> >> >> >> Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, >> >> allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without >> >> evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass >> >> was sterilized before or after use. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or >> >> Pence is low. >> > >> >Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation. >> My doctor does that too. She changes the probability that an infection >> will do me serious harm. >> >> That's unnatural, when you think about it. I'm sure that you leave >> your own illnesses untreated. >> -- >> >> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc >> >> Science teaches us to doubt. >> >> Claude Bernard > >The West Wing Read Trump) refers people who need to be told what to think to this link: >https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/04/trump-doing-really-well-could-be-released-from-hospital-soon-his-doctor-says/ >Antivirals NEVER clear the virus from the body. The patient has to do that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "naive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that takes two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back the minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way to select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too.
OK, we'll verify your medical diagnosis. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/president-trump-says-hell-return-white-house-monday-night
On Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:28:13 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs ><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>> >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), >>> >> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&#2013266066;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&#2013266066;t just bad judgement. It&#2013266066;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&#2013266066;s chain-of-command when you&#2013266066;ve got an election to win?" >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >>> >> > >>> >> >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ >>> >> Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, >>> >> every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did >>> >> squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. >>> >> >>> >> Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, >>> >> allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without >>> >> evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass >>> >> was sterilized before or after use. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or >>> >> Pence is low. >>> > >>> >Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation. >>> My doctor does that too. She changes the probability that an infection >>> will do me serious harm. >>> >>> That's unnatural, when you think about it. I'm sure that you leave >>> your own illnesses untreated. >>> -- >>> >>> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc >>> >>> Science teaches us to doubt. >>> >>> Claude Bernard >> >>The West Wing Read Trump) refers people who need to be told what to think to this link: >>https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/04/trump-doing-really-well-could-be-released-from-hospital-soon-his-doctor-says/ >>Antivirals NEVER clear the virus from the body. The patient has to do that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "naive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that takes two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back the minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way to select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too. > >OK, we'll verify your medical diagnosis. > >https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/president-trump-says-hell-return-white-house-monday-night
Sounds like he spent the weekend in the hospital, walked out the front door, flew in his helicopter, and walked into the White House. Sounds pretty tame so far.
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 1:49:21 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), > bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:
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> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or Pence is low.
There's not a lot of Trump or Pence that the virus could make any worse that it was before it got at them.
> I've seen some studies that suggest that wearing cloth masks is not > protective against airborne viruses. If it is a little protective, > masking will help the virus stay active into winter.
And how would that work? Not that the virus is showing much sign of caring which season it is so far.
> So much wrongness.
John Larkin does have a talent for finding wrongness, and spreading it. Mostly he doesn't realise what he is spreading is wrong. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:51:14 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:28:13 -0700, John Larkin > <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote: > > >On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > ><bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > >>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> >On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >>> >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), > >>> >> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/president-trump-says-hell-return-white-house-monday-night > > Sounds like he spent the weekend in the hospital, walked out the front > door, flew in his helicopter, and walked into the White House. > > Sounds pretty tame so far.
Wait until the New York Times can document the number of people Trump has managed to infect so far. He's going to be the greatest super-spreader ever, or die trying to get there. Most of the people he is likely to infect are younger, less obese, and less likely to die. Some of them might even be white supremacists. This makes it all marginally less irresponsible. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 2020/10/05 4:51 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:28:13 -0700, John Larkin > <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >>>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ >>>>>> Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, >>>>>> every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did >>>>>> squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. >>>>>> >>>>>> Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, >>>>>> allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without >>>>>> evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass >>>>>> was sterilized before or after use. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or >>>>>> Pence is low. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation. >>>> My doctor does that too. She changes the probability that an infection >>>> will do me serious harm. >>>> >>>> That's unnatural, when you think about it. I'm sure that you leave >>>> your own illnesses untreated. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc >>>> >>>> Science teaches us to doubt. >>>> >>>> Claude Bernard >>> >>> The West Wing Read Trump) refers people who need to be told what to think to this link: >>> https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/04/trump-doing-really-well-could-be-released-from-hospital-soon-his-doctor-says/ >>> Antivirals NEVER clear the virus from the body. The patient has to do that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "naive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that takes two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back the minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way to select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too. >> >> OK, we'll verify your medical diagnosis. >> >> https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/president-trump-says-hell-return-white-house-monday-night > > Sounds like he spent the weekend in the hospital, walked out the front > door, flew in his helicopter, and walked into the White House. > > Sounds pretty tame so far. >
Well, after my heart attack last May - which I didn't realize at the time - my only symptom was feeling a bit tired, and a sore right arm only at night. I walked into the ambulance on the advice of the ERT and went into our local hospital where they then did more tests and they recommended that I shouldn't consider going home just yet... Five days later in for open heart surgery as too many blockages for doing stents. So, sure I could have ignored doctor's advice and gone home/back to work, but I probably would be dead by now. Instead I am merely my usual irritating self - who appreciates the Canadian health care system. Feeling pretty good these days too. Not sure about this president of yours though, he sounds a bit foolish to me. You don't fool around with Covid-19... John
Am 06.10.20 um 01:51 schrieb John Larkin:
> On Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:28:13 -0700, John Larkin
>> OK, we'll verify your medical diagnosis. >> >> https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/president-trump-says-hell-return-white-house-monday-night > > Sounds like he spent the weekend in the hospital, walked out the front > door, flew in his helicopter, and walked into the White House. > > Sounds pretty tame so far.
The religious right will move Easter to oct 5. HE died for for our sins and resurrected from the Reed on the third day. Gerhard
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 2:59:16 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/5/2020 2:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote: > > On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 12:25:43 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: > >> On 10/5/2020 10:35 AM, Ricketty C wrote: > >>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:12:47 AM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > >>>> > >>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ > >>> > >>> Why is it a Constitutional crisis if the Vice President can't assume the role of President when it's not a Constitutional crisis when the President can't fulfill his duties??? > >>> > >>> Why is it reckless for the VP to attend rallies when it was prudent for the President to do so? > >>> > >>> Something tells me there is a tremendous fear of the Speaker of the House assuming the duties of President just before an election. That is the stuff novels and TV series are written about! Let's all hope it happens. TV is pretty boring at the moment! > >>> > >> Yeah there was a novel called "Trinity's Child" where most of the line > >> of succession was taken out by a nuclear surprise attack and the > >> Secretary of the Interior became president and turns out to be a madman. > >> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity%27s_Child> > >> > >> It was made into a TV movie in the early 90s re-titled "By Dawn's Early > >> Light" a mostly dreadful adaption with Rip Torn and Rebecca De Mornay. > >> > >> James Earl Jones is in it too and even though he's mostly phoning it in > >> is a welcome relief whenever someone with acting ability shows up. > > > > Those kinds of stories require more suspension of disbelief than I can manage, so never pay attention to that genre. > > > Yeah the only one of those fictional scenarios that struck me as > somewhat realistic was this alternate-history piece from the late 90s > mostly cobbled together from stock footage: > > <https://youtu.be/q1m7opOGSmQ?t=4138> > > "In just 36 hours of war both sides have expended the majority of their > (conventional) arsenals..."
Here's something that really happened: When Britain Nuked America....Twice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wx6npt421c
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 7:51:14 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Oct 2020 13:28:13 -0700, John Larkin > <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote: > > >On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > ><bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > >>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> >On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >>> >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), > >>> >> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> >"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > >>> >> > > >>> >> >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ > >>> >> Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, > >>> >> every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did > >>> >> squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. > >>> >> > >>> >> Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, > >>> >> allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without > >>> >> evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass > >>> >> was sterilized before or after use. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or > >>> >> Pence is low. > >>> > > >>> >Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation. > >>> My doctor does that too. She changes the probability that an infection > >>> will do me serious harm. > >>> > >>> That's unnatural, when you think about it. I'm sure that you leave > >>> your own illnesses untreated. > >>> -- > >>> > >>> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc > >>> > >>> Science teaches us to doubt. > >>> > >>> Claude Bernard > >> > >>The West Wing Read Trump) refers people who need to be told what to think to this link: > >>https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/04/trump-doing-really-well-could-be-released-from-hospital-soon-his-doctor-says/ > >>Antivirals NEVER clear the virus from the body. The patient has to do that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "naive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that takes two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back the minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way to select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too. > > > >OK, we'll verify your medical diagnosis. > > > >https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/president-trump-says-hell-return-white-house-monday-night > Sounds like he spent the weekend in the hospital, walked out the front > door, flew in his helicopter, and walked into the White House. > > Sounds pretty tame so far.
What I saw was anything but tame. The short walk from the helicopter to the WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an uncomfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit down and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping for air with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty whole chest heave and then they cut off the video. Trump is a very sick man. My best guess is that his lung capacity is less than 50%, and probably much lower. Some of this will be permanent and some will be recovered. Given the early stage of his infection, this does not look good at all. And despite the claims of that Navy bs-artist doctor ( and idiot), "world class" health care doesn't mean it's any good, so small comfort there.