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Pence should be protected to avoid constitutional crisis

Started by Unknown October 5, 2020
"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he’s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn’t just bad judgement. It’s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America’s chain-of-command when you’ve got an election to win?"


Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:12:47 AM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he’s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn’t just bad judgement. It’s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America’s chain-of-command when you’ve got an election to win?" > > > Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > > https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/
Why is it a Constitutional crisis if the Vice President can't assume the role of President when it's not a Constitutional crisis when the President can't fulfill his duties??? Why is it reckless for the VP to attend rallies when it was prudent for the President to do so? Something tells me there is a tremendous fear of the Speaker of the House assuming the duties of President just before an election. That is the stuff novels and TV series are written about! Let's all hope it happens. TV is pretty boring at the moment! -- Rick C. - Get 1,500 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

>"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he�s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn�t just bad judgement. It�s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America�s chain-of-command when you�ve got an election to win?" > > >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/
Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass was sterilized before or after use. The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or Pence is low. I've seen some studies that suggest that wearing cloth masks is not protective against airborne viruses. If it is a little protective, masking will help the virus stay active into winter. So much wrongness. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), > bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: > > >"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he’s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn’t just bad judgement. It’s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America’s chain-of-command when you’ve got an election to win?" > > > > > >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > > > >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ > Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, > every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did > squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. > > Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, > allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without > evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass > was sterilized before or after use. > > > > The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or > Pence is low.
Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation.
> > I've seen some studies that suggest that wearing cloth masks is not > protective against airborne viruses. If it is a little protective, > masking will help the virus stay active into winter. > > So much wrongness. > > > > -- > > John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc > > Science teaches us to doubt. > > Claude Bernard
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), >> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&#2013266066;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&#2013266066;t just bad judgement. It&#2013266066;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&#2013266066;s chain-of-command when you&#2013266066;ve got an election to win?" >> > >> > >> >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >> > >> >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ >> Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, >> every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did >> squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. >> >> Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, >> allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without >> evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass >> was sterilized before or after use. >> >> >> >> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or >> Pence is low. > >Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation.
My doctor does that too. She changes the probability that an infection will do me serious harm. That's unnatural, when you think about it. I'm sure that you leave your own illnesses untreated. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard
On 10/5/2020 10:35 AM, Ricketty C wrote:
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:12:47 AM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote: >> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" >> >> >> Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >> >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ > > Why is it a Constitutional crisis if the Vice President can't assume the role of President when it's not a Constitutional crisis when the President can't fulfill his duties??? > > Why is it reckless for the VP to attend rallies when it was prudent for the President to do so? > > Something tells me there is a tremendous fear of the Speaker of the House assuming the duties of President just before an election. That is the stuff novels and TV series are written about! Let's all hope it happens. TV is pretty boring at the moment! >
Yeah there was a novel called "Trinity's Child" where most of the line of succession was taken out by a nuclear surprise attack and the Secretary of the Interior became president and turns out to be a madman. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity%27s_Child> It was made into a TV movie in the early 90s re-titled "By Dawn's Early Light" a mostly dreadful adaption with Rip Torn and Rebecca De Mornay. James Earl Jones is in it too and even though he's mostly phoning it in is a welcome relief whenever someone with acting ability shows up.
On 10/5/2020 12:25 PM, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/5/2020 10:35 AM, Ricketty C wrote: >> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:12:47 AM UTC-4, >> bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote: >>> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely >>> nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must >>> protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do >>> otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a >>> bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a >>> live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. >>> Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected >>> president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the >>> American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad >>> judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding >>> America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" >>> >>> >>> Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >>> >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ >>> >> >> Why is it a Constitutional crisis if the Vice President can't assume >> the role of President when it's not a Constitutional crisis when the >> President can't fulfill his duties??? >> >> Why is it reckless for the VP to attend rallies when it was prudent >> for the President to do so? >> >> Something tells me there is a tremendous fear of the Speaker of the >> House assuming the duties of President just before an election.&nbsp; That >> is the stuff novels and TV series are written about!&nbsp; Let's all hope >> it happens.&nbsp; TV is pretty boring at the moment! >> > > Yeah there was a novel called "Trinity's Child" where most of the line > of succession was taken out by a nuclear surprise attack and the > Secretary of the Interior became president and turns out to be a madman. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity%27s_Child> > > It was made into a TV movie in the early 90s re-titled "By Dawn's Early > Light" a mostly dreadful adaption with Rip Torn and Rebecca De Mornay. > > James Earl Jones is in it too and even though he's mostly phoning it in > is a welcome relief whenever someone with acting ability shows up.
Oh I forgot Martin Landau does a decent job of playing the Jimmy Carter-insertion. If they'd just kept Landau and Jones they might have been on their way to making a decent film lol
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs > <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT), > >> bloggs.fred...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> >"And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" > >> > > >> > > >> >Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > >> > > >> >https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ > >> Sunday's New York Times was all Trump, every article, every page, > >> every section. All of it bad, boring, cliche'd writing. Well, they did > >> squeeze in a little racism and a little Climate Change. > >> > >> Multiple anonymous sources confirm that Trump, without a mask, > >> allegedly drank a "glass" of so-called water which was without > >> evidence claimed to be potable H2O. There is no proof that the glass > >> was sterilized before or after use. > >> > >> > >> > >> The probability of this virus doing serious damage to either Trump or > >> Pence is low. > > > >Maybe, ordinarily- but this doctor is changing that equation. > My doctor does that too. She changes the probability that an infection > will do me serious harm. > > That's unnatural, when you think about it. I'm sure that you leave > your own illnesses untreated. > -- > > John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc > > Science teaches us to doubt. > > Claude Bernard
The West Wing Read Trump) refers people who need to be told what to think to this link: https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/04/trump-doing-really-well-could-be-released-from-hospital-soon-his-doctor-says/ Antivirals NEVER clear the virus from the body. The patient has to do that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "naive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that takes two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back the minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way to select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too.
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 12:25:43 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/5/2020 10:35 AM, Ricketty C wrote: > > On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:12:47 AM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote: > >> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" > >> > >> > >> Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: > >> > >> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ > > > > Why is it a Constitutional crisis if the Vice President can't assume the role of President when it's not a Constitutional crisis when the President can't fulfill his duties??? > > > > Why is it reckless for the VP to attend rallies when it was prudent for the President to do so? > > > > Something tells me there is a tremendous fear of the Speaker of the House assuming the duties of President just before an election. That is the stuff novels and TV series are written about! Let's all hope it happens. TV is pretty boring at the moment! > > > Yeah there was a novel called "Trinity's Child" where most of the line > of succession was taken out by a nuclear surprise attack and the > Secretary of the Interior became president and turns out to be a madman. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity%27s_Child> > > It was made into a TV movie in the early 90s re-titled "By Dawn's Early > Light" a mostly dreadful adaption with Rip Torn and Rebecca De Mornay. > > James Earl Jones is in it too and even though he's mostly phoning it in > is a welcome relief whenever someone with acting ability shows up.
Those kinds of stories require more suspension of disbelief than I can manage, so never pay attention to that genre.
On 10/5/2020 2:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 12:25:43 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: >> On 10/5/2020 10:35 AM, Ricketty C wrote: >>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:12:47 AM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> "And yet, the president and his advisors have learned absolutely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he&rsquo;s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn&rsquo;t just bad judgement. It&rsquo;s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America&rsquo;s chain-of-command when you&rsquo;ve got an election to win?" >>>> >>>> >>>> Opinion piece, by appellate lawyer: >>>> >>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/05/trump-and-covid-19-how-he-corrupts-us-all-column/3616432001/ >>> >>> Why is it a Constitutional crisis if the Vice President can't assume the role of President when it's not a Constitutional crisis when the President can't fulfill his duties??? >>> >>> Why is it reckless for the VP to attend rallies when it was prudent for the President to do so? >>> >>> Something tells me there is a tremendous fear of the Speaker of the House assuming the duties of President just before an election. That is the stuff novels and TV series are written about! Let's all hope it happens. TV is pretty boring at the moment! >>> >> Yeah there was a novel called "Trinity's Child" where most of the line >> of succession was taken out by a nuclear surprise attack and the >> Secretary of the Interior became president and turns out to be a madman. >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity%27s_Child> >> >> It was made into a TV movie in the early 90s re-titled "By Dawn's Early >> Light" a mostly dreadful adaption with Rip Torn and Rebecca De Mornay. >> >> James Earl Jones is in it too and even though he's mostly phoning it in >> is a welcome relief whenever someone with acting ability shows up. > > Those kinds of stories require more suspension of disbelief than I can manage, so never pay attention to that genre. >
Yeah the only one of those fictional scenarios that struck me as somewhat realistic was this alternate-history piece from the late 90s mostly cobbled together from stock footage: <https://youtu.be/q1m7opOGSmQ?t=4138> "In just 36 hours of war both sides have expended the majority of their (conventional) arsenals..."