P in this case means people. It does point up the importance of multi-year trial testing of vaccines. Vaccination and autoimmune diseases: is prevention of adverse health effects on the horizon? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5607155/
Usually They're Cool With Less Than 10PPM
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Reply by ●August 12, 20202020-08-12
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:>P in this case means people. It does point up the importance of multi-year trial testing of vaccines. >No, it means 'parts per million'. The only time it could mean 'people', is if you're talking about a population of 1 million souls. My neighborhood has 30 cases detected for a rate of 1450ppm, somewhat lower than the provincial or national average. They're not publishing fatalities for such small (20,000) communities, but with a national gross fatality rate of 7.7%, we could expect 2 or 3 deaths, locally. RL
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On 8/12/2020 2:18 PM, legg wrote:> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT), > bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: > >> P in this case means people. It does point up the importance of multi-year trial testing of vaccines. >> > No, it means 'parts per million'. > > The only time it could mean 'people', is if you're talking > about a population of 1 million souls. > > My neighborhood has 30 cases detected for a rate of 1450ppm, > somewhat lower than the provincial or national average. > > They're not publishing fatalities for such small (20,000) > communities, but with a national gross fatality rate of > 7.7%, we could expect 2 or 3 deaths, locally."Gross fatality rate"? Not "Case Fatality Rate" or "Infection Fatality Rate"? We have approximately 1% of the residents in our ZIP code (an area of about 7 sq mi) reported as infected (a population comparable to the size of your "small community"). But, no published data on fatalities. By comparison, the state (pop ~7M) claims ~190K cases ~2.5%. We're expecting > 1:1000 deaths, statewide -- of the TOTAL population (not just of those infected) -- by year end (i.e., 7K deaths). That's what happens when you've got an ice cream salesman running the show (and actively preventing state/county governments from enacting any stricter measures!)...
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On 8/12/2020 2:44 PM, Don Y wrote:> That's what happens when you've got an ice cream salesman running > the show (and actively preventing state/county governments from > enacting any stricter measures!)..."state" s.b. "city"
Reply by ●August 12, 20202020-08-12
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:44:28 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:>On 8/12/2020 2:18 PM, legg wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT), >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> P in this case means people. It does point up the importance of multi-year trial testing of vaccines. >>> >> No, it means 'parts per million'. >> >> The only time it could mean 'people', is if you're talking >> about a population of 1 million souls. >> >> My neighborhood has 30 cases detected for a rate of 1450ppm, >> somewhat lower than the provincial or national average. >> >> They're not publishing fatalities for such small (20,000) >> communities, but with a national gross fatality rate of >> 7.7%, we could expect 2 or 3 deaths, locally. > >"Gross fatality rate"? Not "Case Fatality Rate" or "Infection >Fatality Rate"? > >We have approximately 1% of the residents in our ZIP code >(an area of about 7 sq mi) reported as infected (a population >comparable to the size of your "small community"). But, no >published data on fatalities. > >By comparison, the state (pop ~7M) claims ~190K cases ~2.5%. > >We're expecting > 1:1000 deaths, statewide -- of the TOTAL >population (not just of those infected) -- by year end (i.e., >7K deaths). > >That's what happens when you've got an ice cream salesman running >the show (and actively preventing state/county governments from >enacting any stricter measures!)...gross meaning crude FR = fatalitie/cases Only meaningful as a statistic, seldom in specific cases. We have one high-rise rent-geared-to-income facility that is disproportionally aged or disabled - but no contacts recorded there. Knock On Wood. RL
Reply by ●August 12, 20202020-08-12
On 8/12/2020 4:23 PM, legg wrote:> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:44:28 -0700, Don Y > <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > >> On 8/12/2020 2:18 PM, legg wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT),>>> The only time it could mean 'people', is if you're talking >>> about a population of 1 million souls. >>> >>> My neighborhood has 30 cases detected for a rate of 1450ppm, >>> somewhat lower than the provincial or national average. >>> >>> They're not publishing fatalities for such small (20,000) >>> communities, but with a national gross fatality rate of >>> 7.7%, we could expect 2 or 3 deaths, locally. >> >> "Gross fatality rate"? Not "Case Fatality Rate" or "Infection >> Fatality Rate"? >> >> We have approximately 1% of the residents in our ZIP code >> (an area of about 7 sq mi) reported as infected (a population >> comparable to the size of your "small community"). But, no >> published data on fatalities. >> >> By comparison, the state (pop ~7M) claims ~190K cases ~2.5%. >> >> We're expecting > 1:1000 deaths, statewide -- of the TOTAL >> population (not just of those infected) -- by year end (i.e., >> 7K deaths). >> >> That's what happens when you've got an ice cream salesman running >> the show (and actively preventing state/county governments from >> enacting any stricter measures!)... > > gross meaning crude > FR = fatalitie/casesOK. We'd call that the CASE fatality rate (i.e., against CONFIRMED cases) The IFR tries to guesstimate the number of actual INFECTIONS -- which will always be greater than the number of confirmed cases -- so the RATE is inevitably lower. It's interesting to examine infection rates across the state (broken down by ZIP code). "Gee, I'm glad I don't live THERE!" :>> Only meaningful as a statistic, seldom in specific cases. > > We have one high-rise rent-geared-to-income facility that > is disproportionally aged or disabled - but no contacts > recorded there. Knock On Wood.Half of the cases, here, are < 45 years old. But, they don't get much publicity because their fatality rate is lower than the older folks. That is starting to change as we see older folks taking more preventative measures to avoid infection while younger folks are taking less/none. We'll soon be seeing the consequences of school (and university) openings.
