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Started by Unknown March 24, 2018
I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I don't =
have my lists of newsgroups.  I can't seem to find a working group for disc=
ussing networking issues.  Any suggestions? =20

I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no router.=
  I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one another.  I ca=
n view the hard drive of one from the other.  I can't seem to get remote de=
sktop to work.  I had it working once and found it was going over the Wifi =
link which is not as fast as I would like.  When I disconnected that I was =
not able to make the remote desktop connection work over Ethernet and now I=
 can't get it to work over the Wifi link again. =20

This should be easy.  I had it working on two W2K machines ages ago and W2K=
 was the dark ages of networking.  There used to be an excellent site calle=
d World of Windows Networking, WoWN.com I think.  I found what was left of =
the site at http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/contact.htm  It seems=
 to be an old archive only covering OS up to XP. =20

So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps which =
I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made.  It tells me=
 to do simple things like make sure remote access is enabled and the remote=
 computer is on. =20

It worked once, so everything needed must be there. =20

Rick C.
On 24/03/18 22:30, gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote:
> I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I don't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working group for discussing networking issues. Any suggestions? > > I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no router. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one another. I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't seem to get remote desktop to work. I had it working once and found it was going over the Wifi link which is not as fast as I would like. When I disconnected that I was not able to make the remote desktop connection work over Ethernet and now I can't get it to work over the Wifi link again. > > So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps which I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. It tells me to do simple things like make sure remote access is enabled and the remote computer is on. > > It worked once, so everything needed must be there.
http://www.configserverfirewall.com/windows-10/enable-remote-desktop-windows-10/ You might have other issues if the user name used on both computers is different. -- Adrian C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote:
> I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I > don't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working > group for discussing networking issues. Any suggestions? > > I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no > router. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one > another. I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't > seem to get remote desktop to work. I had it working once and found > it was going over the Wifi link which is not as fast as I would like. > When I disconnected that I was not able to make the remote desktop > connection work over Ethernet and now I can't get it to work over the > Wifi link again. > > This should be easy. I had it working on two W2K machines ages ago > and W2K was the dark ages of networking. There used to be an > excellent site called World of Windows Networking, WoWN.com I think. > I found what was left of the site at > http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/contact.htm It seems to be > an old archive only covering OS up to XP.
Helmig was one of the best technical writers I've ever seen, and he kept words to a minimum. If networking books used his wown.com site as an example they'd be a lot shorter and a lot better. When you have to learn something fast to get it done most writers think you want to read 400 pages of prose.
> So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps > which I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. > It tells me to do simple things like make sure remote access is > enabled and the remote computer is on. > > It worked once, so everything needed must be there.
Did you have a firewall installed in win2k? What happens when you disable both firewalls? If these 2 PC's are not connected to anything but each other, do you need a firewall on them? Have you heard of the newsgroups at grc.com? That server is separate from usenet, and the groups are better than usenet ever was for networking and computer security.
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 11:55:36 -0400, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

> Helmig was one of the best technical writers I've ever seen, and he kept > words to a minimum.
A rare talent indeed. That reminds me of 'The C Programming Language' by Dennis Ritchie. You rarely see such clarity like that nowadays. That is why I value reference books written before 1950 very highly (though not for fast evolving subjects like electronics, for obvious reasons). -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition.
On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 4:40:57 AM UTC-4, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 24/03/18 22:30, gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote: > > I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I do=
n't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working group for = discussing networking issues. Any suggestions?
> >=20 > > I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no rou=
ter. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one another. = I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't seem to get remot= e desktop to work. I had it working once and found it was going over the W= ifi link which is not as fast as I would like. When I disconnected that I = was not able to make the remote desktop connection work over Ethernet and n= ow I can't get it to work over the Wifi link again.
> >=20 > > So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps wh=
ich I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. It tell= s me to do simple things like make sure remote access is enabled and the re= mote computer is on.
> >=20 > > It worked once, so everything needed must be there. >=20 > http://www.configserverfirewall.com/windows-10/enable-remote-desktop-wind=
ows-10/
>=20 > You might have other issues if the user name used on both computers is=20 > different.
I wish that were my problem. I have read a number of pages that offer help= for this and none quite get past the error. This one talks about being bl= ocked by the firewall which I don't think is the case, but I tried turning = off both firewalls and it still won't connect. This is before it has a cha= nce to complain about the wrong user name or a logon error. The error mess= age suggests checking to make sure you are connected and that remote deskto= p is enabled on the other end.=20 Rick C.=20
On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 12:31:20 AM UTC-4, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2018-03-24, gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I > > don't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working > > group for discussing networking issues. Any suggestions? > > Kind of vague there. > > > I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no > > router. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one > > another. I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't > > seem to get remote desktop to work. I had it working once and found > > it was going over the Wifi link which is not as fast as I would like. > > When I disconnected that I was not able to make the remote desktop > > connection work over Ethernet and now I can't get it to work over the > > Wifi link again. > > Sounds like an operating system problem. you probably need OS-Specific > advice. > > -- > This email has not been checked by half-arsed antivirus software
Yeah sorry, both ends are windows 10. Rick C.
On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 12:02:06 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote: > > I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I > > don't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working > > group for discussing networking issues. Any suggestions? > > > > I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no > > router. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one > > another. I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't > > seem to get remote desktop to work. I had it working once and found > > it was going over the Wifi link which is not as fast as I would like. > > When I disconnected that I was not able to make the remote desktop > > connection work over Ethernet and now I can't get it to work over the > > Wifi link again. > > > > This should be easy. I had it working on two W2K machines ages ago > > and W2K was the dark ages of networking. There used to be an > > excellent site called World of Windows Networking, WoWN.com I think. > > I found what was left of the site at > > http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/contact.htm It seems to be > > an old archive only covering OS up to XP. > > Helmig was one of the best technical writers I've ever seen, and he kept > words to a minimum. If networking books used his wown.com site as an > example they'd be a lot shorter and a lot better. When you have to > learn something fast to get it done most writers think you want to read > 400 pages of prose. > > > > So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps > > which I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. > > It tells me to do simple things like make sure remote access is > > enabled and the remote computer is on. > > > > It worked once, so everything needed must be there. > > Did you have a firewall installed in win2k? What happens when you > disable both firewalls?
When it worked before I had both firewalls running, but I just tried it again with both firewalls turned off and get the same result.
> If these 2 PC's are not connected to anything but each other, do you > need a firewall on them?
At lease one PC will be connected to the Internet, but for now I don't need that.
> Have you heard of the newsgroups at grc.com? That server is separate > from usenet, and the groups are better than usenet ever was for > networking and computer security.
Thanks, I look into that. I'm running out of time today, maybe Tuesday or after. Not sure how much time I'll have the next couple of days. I actually have work for the short term. Need to get orders out. Rick C.
On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 6:30:45 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wr=
ote:
> I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I don'=
t have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working group for di= scussing networking issues. Any suggestions? =20
>=20 > I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no route=
r. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one another. I = can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't seem to get remote = desktop to work. I had it working once and found it was going over the Wif= i link which is not as fast as I would like. When I disconnected that I wa= s not able to make the remote desktop connection work over Ethernet and now= I can't get it to work over the Wifi link again. =20
>=20 > This should be easy. I had it working on two W2K machines ages ago and W=
2K was the dark ages of networking. There used to be an excellent site cal= led World of Windows Networking, WoWN.com I think. I found what was left o= f the site at http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/contact.htm It see= ms to be an old archive only covering OS up to XP. =20
>=20 > So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps whic=
h I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. It tells = me to do simple things like make sure remote access is enabled and the remo= te computer is on. =20
>=20 > It worked once, so everything needed must be there. =20
One of the things suggested was configuring the IPv4 connection to use a fi= xed IP address so I did that on both computers. I can ping one computer fr= om the other, so the connection is good. Also I can view and access files = on one computer from the other. It's just RDC that isn't working other tha= n that one time.=20 Rick C.=20
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:26:20 -0700 (PDT),
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote:

>On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 6:30:45 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote: >> I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I don't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working group for discussing networking issues. Any suggestions? >> >> I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no router. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one another. I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't seem to get remote desktop to work. I had it working once and found it was going over the Wifi link which is not as fast as I would like. When I disconnected that I was not able to make the remote desktop connection work over Ethernet and now I can't get it to work over the Wifi link again. >> >> This should be easy. I had it working on two W2K machines ages ago and W2K was the dark ages of networking. There used to be an excellent site called World of Windows Networking, WoWN.com I think. I found what was left of the site at http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/contact.htm It seems to be an old archive only covering OS up to XP. >> >> So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps which I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. It tells me to do simple things like make sure remote access is enabled and the remote computer is on. >> >> It worked once, so everything needed must be there. > >One of the things suggested was configuring the IPv4 connection to use a fixed IP address so I did that on both computers. I can ping one computer from the other, so the connection is good. Also I can view and access files on one computer from the other. It's just RDC that isn't working other than that one time. > >Rick C.
Make sure Remote access is enabled. Also,make sure the user is in the 'Remote Desktop users' group. Having the same user/pwd on each computer might make a difference, it does on win7. Cheers
On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 4:05:51 PM UTC-4, Martin Riddle wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:26:20 -0700 (PDT), > gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > >On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 6:30:45 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com=
wrote:
> >> I am using Google groups until my laptop situation settles down so I d=
on't have my lists of newsgroups. I can't seem to find a working group for= discussing networking issues. Any suggestions? =20
> >>=20 > >> I'm trying to get two PCs to talk over an Ethernet line, direct, no ro=
uter. I have them wired with fixed IP addresses and can ping one another. = I can view the hard drive of one from the other. I can't seem to get remo= te desktop to work. I had it working once and found it was going over the = Wifi link which is not as fast as I would like. When I disconnected that I= was not able to make the remote desktop connection work over Ethernet and = now I can't get it to work over the Wifi link again. =20
> >>=20 > >> This should be easy. I had it working on two W2K machines ages ago an=
d W2K was the dark ages of networking. There used to be an excellent site = called World of Windows Networking, WoWN.com I think. I found what was lef= t of the site at http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/contact.htm It = seems to be an old archive only covering OS up to XP. =20
> >>=20 > >> So now all the sources I find tell me to follow the few simple steps w=
hich I do and I get no errors, except the connection is never made. It tel= ls me to do simple things like make sure remote access is enabled and the r= emote computer is on. =20
> >>=20 > >> It worked once, so everything needed must be there. =20 > > > >One of the things suggested was configuring the IPv4 connection to use a=
fixed IP address so I did that on both computers. I can ping one computer= from the other, so the connection is good. Also I can view and access fil= es on one computer from the other. It's just RDC that isn't working other = than that one time.=20
> > > >Rick C.=20 >=20 > Make sure Remote access is enabled. > Also,make sure the user is in the 'Remote Desktop users' group. >=20 > Having the same user/pwd on each computer might make a difference, it > does on win7.
Yes, Remote Access is enabled, that's how I got it to work once. What is t= he Remote Desktop users' group and where is this set? Or are you saying a = user needs to be added to the remote PC? (the one being controlled)=20 Rick C.=20