OT: Computer Problem

Started by billbowden September 13, 2017
Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the 
net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a 
particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to 
CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes 
the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just 
re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem 
with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system 
and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. 
I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to 
work ok while off-line.





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billbowden wrote:
> Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while > browsing the net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be > associated with a particular application since the machine locks up > (doesn't respond to CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and > Outlook Express. Sometimes the mouse just frezzes and I have to > reset, other times, the machine just re-boots itself for no reason. > I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem with the disc or it's some > sort of virus that infects the operating system and gradually gets > worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. I suppose I > should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to work > ok while off-line. >
. Sounds suspiciously like a power supply problem. Check voltages and ripple/noise on all PSU outputs. *Especially* ripple/noise! Should be 50mV P-P on +5V, -5V (if present) and +3.3V outputs, up to 120mV P-P on the +12V and -12V outputs. Voltage tolerances are +/- 5% on all outputs except the negative supplies, which is +/-10%. Dave M
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:27:57 -0500, "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net>
wrote:

>billbowden wrote: >> Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while >> browsing the net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be >> associated with a particular application since the machine locks up >> (doesn't respond to CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and >> Outlook Express. Sometimes the mouse just frezzes and I have to >> reset, other times, the machine just re-boots itself for no reason. >> I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem with the disc or it's some >> sort of virus that infects the operating system and gradually gets >> worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. I suppose I >> should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to work >> ok while off-line. >> > . > >Sounds suspiciously like a power supply problem. Check voltages and >ripple/noise on all PSU outputs. *Especially* ripple/noise! Should be 50mV >P-P on +5V, -5V (if present) and +3.3V outputs, up to 120mV P-P on the +12V >and -12V outputs. >Voltage tolerances are +/- 5% on all outputs except the negative supplies, >which is +/-10%. > >Dave M >
PSU problems don't match up with... "The system seems to work ok while off-line." ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I'm looking for work... see my website. Thinking outside the box...producing elegant & economic solutions.
On 13/09/2017 23:02, billbowden wrote:
> Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the > net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a > particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to > CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes > the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just > re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem > with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system > and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. > I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to > work ok while off-line. > > > > > > . > >
Depending on your resources/configuration, try swapping around/re seating your memory sticks... Or take one pair out etc. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
On 2017/09/13 3:02 PM, billbowden wrote:
> > Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the > net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a > particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to > CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes > the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just > re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem > with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system > and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. > I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to > work ok while off-line. >
XP has NO protection against current virus/malware attacks. I recommend you never hook up an XP machine online, or if hooked up never use a browser. Far too many search engine results are compromised to trust the vintage of browser that will only work on XP. https://www.wired.com/2017/05/still-use-windows-xp-prepare-worst/ A patch you need to install if you are running XP: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/msrc/2017/05/12/customer-guidance-for-wannacrypt-attacks/ John :-#(#
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:02:13 -0700, "billbowden"
<bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:

> >Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the >net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a >particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to >CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes >the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just >re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem >with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system >and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. >I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to >work ok while off-line. >
Only browsing? XP tended to have memory leaks, which you could get from opening and closing a lot of jpegs or something. Eventually you'd run out of RAM and have to reboot. Win7 is a lot more stable than XP. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
On 9/14/2017 3:32 AM, billbowden wrote:
> Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the > net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a > particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to > CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes > the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just > re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem > with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system > and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. > I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to > work ok while off-line. >
I suggest you try these first: Clear accumulated junk with Ccleaner https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner and scan your HDD for defects with HDTune http://www.hdtune.com/download.html The free versions work well enough for most people.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:33:21 +1000, Jim Thompson  
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> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:27:57 -0500, "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net> > wrote: > >> billbowden wrote: >>> Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while >>> browsing the net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be >>> associated with a particular application since the machine locks up >>> (doesn't respond to CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and >>> Outlook Express. Sometimes the mouse just frezzes and I have to >>> reset, other times, the machine just re-boots itself for no reason. >>> I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem with the disc or it's some >>> sort of virus that infects the operating system and gradually gets >>> worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. I suppose I >>> should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to work >>> ok while off-line. >>> >> . >> >> Sounds suspiciously like a power supply problem. Check voltages and >> ripple/noise on all PSU outputs. *Especially* ripple/noise! Should be >> 50mV >> P-P on +5V, -5V (if present) and +3.3V outputs, up to 120mV P-P on the >> +12V >> and -12V outputs. >> Voltage tolerances are +/- 5% on all outputs except the negative >> supplies, >> which is +/-10%. >> >> Dave M >> > > PSU problems don't match up with... > > "The system seems to work ok while off-line." > > ...Jim Thompson
Yep - I agree. I think your software is screwed up. -- The latest set of Shadow Broker tools shows the UK, USA, Canada, Australian and New Zealand spy agencies were hacking into domestic home routers. Who gave them permission to spy on our kids?
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:02:13 -0700, "billbowden"
<bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:

>Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the >net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a >particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to >CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes >the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just >re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem >with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system >and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. >I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to >work ok while off-line.
When you ask an auto mechanic for help, what is the first thing he asks? Hint: Maker and model number. Windoze XP suggests that it might be up to 15 years old. Old computers tend to have bulging capacitor problems, which is probably the most common component failure. Also on the old computer list of headaches are AMD processors, which overheat quite easily. Offhand, I would guess(tm) that you either have: 1. Bulging electrolytic caps on the motherboard 2. Bulging electrolytic caps in the power supply 3. Bulging electrolytic caps on the video card 4. Some program that's running in the background going nuts. The first three can be checked physical inspection, substitution, or ESR tester. For software, check: Control Panel -> Admin Tools -> Event Viewer and see if there's any complaints just before it crashes or reboots. Also, download and make a bootable floppy or CD a memory tester: <https://www.memtest86.com/> Run it for a while and later overnight. If it finds anything wrong, you have a hardware problem somewhere. Bulging caps tend to work better when the machine is warm, so cool down the machine before running the test. There's also a memory test program on the boot menu of most Linux LiveCD disks. Since we're not sure if it's hardware or software, you might try running the Linux LiveCD for a while and see if the problems are still present. If so, then it's certainly hardware. If not, then there's something wrong with your Windoze XP installation. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:02:13 -0700, "billbowden"
<bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:

> >Recently, I'm experiencing frequent lockups and re-boots while browsing the >net with Windows XP. The problem doesn't seem to be associated with a >particular application since the machine locks up (doesn't respond to >CTRL-ALT-Delete) in Firefox, Google Crome, and Outlook Express. Sometimes >the mouse just frezzes and I have to reset, other times, the machine just >re-boots itself for no reason. I'm thinking it may be a hardware problem >with the disc or it's some sort of virus that infects the operating system >and gradually gets worse with time. It seems to be getting worse every day. >I suppose I should re-format the disc or get a new one? The system seems to >work ok while off-line. > > > > > >. >
My experiance.... Faulty Power switch in case ( like a logitech mouse button failure). Bad CD-ROM drive. On a laptop caused XP to hang. Bad Memory stick. Swapped out/around until the bad one was found. Video Card. Always have problems with the performance stuff, keep a cheap card around for sanity checks. Cheers