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Why are people buying old Picstart Programmers?

Started by Unknown June 2, 2017
On 6/4/2017 12:02 AM, mike wrote:
> On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, hondgm@yahoo.com wrote: >> I was perusing eBay recently and noticed these old Picstart Programmers going >> for about $50. Why???!! With an RS232 port and I'm sure limited capability, >> the only theory I have is as collector's items. >> > Because they just work. > A better question might be, "why would anybody pay $50?" )-: > I'd take $50 for one of mine in a flash.
The trick, of course, is to match those in need to those having the items in question. I'm always amazed when I see power cords selling for $7.95 (do people actually *pay* for them??!)
On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 10:44:49 AM UTC-5, Neon John wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 12:43:08 -0700 (PDT), hondgm@.com wrote: > > > >> >Ummmm, what? I don't know how we even got off on this tangent. > >> > >> Well that is your limitation :-) > >> > >I guess. What a condescending bunch. > > Not "bunch", just Panteltje who exists to start flame fests. Life > here will be much more pleasant once you put him in your killfile so > you won't have to see any of his spew? >
You're right, that's not the general attitude. I was thinking of another person, also with a 3-letter first name that starts with a J. He's not as bad as Jan apparently but likes to start arguments. Good to know Jan is off his rocker.
mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
> On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, hondgm@yahoo.com wrote: >> I was perusing eBay recently and noticed these old Picstart Programmers >> going for about $50. Why???!! With an RS232 port and I'm sure limited >> capability, the only theory I have is as collector's items. >> > Because they just work. > A better question might be, "why would anybody pay $50?" )-: > I'd take $50 for one of mine in a flash.
The bid-ask spread on $50 is at least $37.56 and may even be $50. (You can buy Picstarts in quantity starting at $12.44.) Caveat emptor: ebay. Thank you, -- Don Kuenz KB7RPU
On 2017-06-02, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
> On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, hondgm@yahoo.com wrote: >> I was perusing eBay recently and noticed these old Picstart Programmers >> going for about $50. Why???!! With an RS232 port and I'm sure limited >> capability, the only theory I have is as collector's items. > > How much of your *time* would $50 buy? > > Or, more generously, how much of your time would you SPEND $50 to *save*? > > Cables are reasonably mindless undertakings. Why would anyone *buy* a > cable when they could MAKE one for far less money? > > I.e., if you have a *need*, then YOU decide what the most effective way > to satisfy that need is likely to be. Build vs. Buy? Or, use something > *other* than a PIC?? > > I've got an old Compaq Portable 386 (lunchbox) that I use as a "two slot > ISA machine" for some legacy tools that I support. It harkens from > the days of 20MB 5" disk drives. I can either try to find a tiny IDE > drive that its' BIOS will recognize -- or, modify its BIOS to support > a "less tiny" (but still incredibly tiny!) disk drive. > > [I chose the latter option] > > Should I replace the EPROMs holding the BIOS with FLASH devices? > Or, erase/reprogram them directly -- which requires a UV light source > and a PROM programmer. > > Will the PROM programmer have a USB interface? Serial? Parallel? > Ethernet? > > etc. How far down this list of prerequisites do you travel before > you consider it "not worth your effort"? > > [BTW, I keep a slew of old "development boards" in the garage for just > that sort of legacy problem solving]
boot from an SD to IDE adaptor, presumably you can still find SD cards small enough to boot from. -- This email has not been checked by half-arsed antivirus software
On 6/9/2017 2:04 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2017-06-02, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >> On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, hondgm@yahoo.com wrote: >>> I was perusing eBay recently and noticed these old Picstart Programmers >>> going for about $50. Why???!! With an RS232 port and I'm sure limited >>> capability, the only theory I have is as collector's items. >> >> How much of your *time* would $50 buy? >> >> Or, more generously, how much of your time would you SPEND $50 to *save*? >> >> Cables are reasonably mindless undertakings. Why would anyone *buy* a >> cable when they could MAKE one for far less money? >> >> I.e., if you have a *need*, then YOU decide what the most effective way >> to satisfy that need is likely to be. Build vs. Buy? Or, use something >> *other* than a PIC?? >> >> I've got an old Compaq Portable 386 (lunchbox) that I use as a "two slot >> ISA machine" for some legacy tools that I support. It harkens from >> the days of 20MB 5" disk drives. I can either try to find a tiny IDE >> drive that its' BIOS will recognize -- or, modify its BIOS to support >> a "less tiny" (but still incredibly tiny!) disk drive. >> >> [I chose the latter option] >> >> Should I replace the EPROMs holding the BIOS with FLASH devices? >> Or, erase/reprogram them directly -- which requires a UV light source >> and a PROM programmer. >> >> Will the PROM programmer have a USB interface? Serial? Parallel? >> Ethernet? >> >> etc. How far down this list of prerequisites do you travel before >> you consider it "not worth your effort"? >> >> [BTW, I keep a slew of old "development boards" in the garage for just >> that sort of legacy problem solving] > > boot from an SD to IDE adaptor, presumably you can still find SD cards > small enough to boot from.
You still have to coax the BIOS to accept the geometry of the drive (the Portable 386 doesn't support a "user customizable" drive "type")