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Almost dumped the 4G Junk Flash

Started by Unknown January 19, 2017
I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it.  I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive.  I guess flash is cheaper than paper now.  The drive costs me several grands, but better than the paper cert.

Looking around to buy a few shares of other BK stocks.
Den torsdag den 19. januar 2017 kl. 17.48.28 UTC+1 skrev edward....@gmail.com:
> I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. The drive costs me several grands, but better than the paper cert. > > Looking around to buy a few shares of other BK stocks.
one of these https://www.usbkill.com/ or just a drive with a trojan horse? ;)
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 9:22:03 AM UTC-8, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> Den torsdag den 19. januar 2017 kl. 17.48.28 UTC+1 skrev edward....@gmail.com: > > I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. The drive costs me several grands, but better than the paper cert. > > > > Looking around to buy a few shares of other BK stocks. > > one of these https://www.usbkill.com/ or just a drive with a trojan horse? > ;)
Not likely. Not if they want us to support their plan. This is from Oil & Gas company managements and lawyers, who will be making big killing on this. They expect full creditor recovery with $50 oil and $2.80 gas. Last i check, both oil and gas are above that. They are estimating 50c/$ on their oil fields. XOM and NEL disagreed and are paying close to full prices recently. Managements will make close to $2B and hopefully leave some for the poor bag holders.
On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
> I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. >
I've been wondering for some time now why companies like motherboard manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash drives instead of on CDs and DVDs. A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like SanDisk now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably get them in bulk for less than $1. That may still be higher than the cost of pressing an optical disc but customers will surely appreciate obviating the need for an optical drive, and wouldn't notice a $1 increase in the overall price.
On 1/21/2017 1:15 AM, Pimpom wrote:
> On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote: >> I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I >> almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is >> cheaper than paper now. >> > I've been wondering for some time now why companies like motherboard > manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash drives instead of > on CDs and DVDs. > > A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like SanDisk > now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably get them in bulk > for less than $1. That may still be higher than the cost of pressing an > optical disc but customers will surely appreciate obviating the need for > an optical drive, and wouldn't notice a $1 increase in the overall price.
That's a good point. Many laptops don't have optical disks now. But then can't you always download the files from the Internet? When you buy a PC they don't even give you a DVD with the OS anymore to save the $0.50. -- Rick C
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:45:59 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote: >> I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. >> >I've been wondering for some time now why companies like >motherboard manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash >drives instead of on CDs and DVDs. > >A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like >SanDisk now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably >get them in bulk for less than $1. That may still be higher than >the cost of pressing an optical disc but customers will surely >appreciate obviating the need for an optical drive, and wouldn't >notice a $1 increase in the overall price.
I'm sure they cost more to make. Also, a $1 increase in production cost doesn't translate into a $1 retail price increase.
On Saturday, 21 January 2017 06:16:04 UTC, Pimpom  wrote:
> On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote: > > I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. > > > I've been wondering for some time now why companies like > motherboard manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash > drives instead of on CDs and DVDs. > > A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like > SanDisk now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably > get them in bulk for less than $1. That may still be higher than > the cost of pressing an optical disc
there's why. 10,000 x an extra $ is $10,000.
> but customers will surely > appreciate obviating the need for an optical drive, and wouldn't > notice a $1 increase in the overall price.
that happens, if at all, after the customer has paid, at which point the company's only interest is to fulfil the contract at minimum cost. NT
On 1/21/2017 12:23 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 1/21/2017 1:15 AM, Pimpom wrote: >> On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote: >>> I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I >>> almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is >>> cheaper than paper now. >>> >> I've been wondering for some time now why companies like motherboard >> manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash drives instead of >> on CDs and DVDs. >> >> A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like SanDisk >> now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably get them in bulk >> for less than $1. That may still be higher than the cost of pressing an >> optical disc but customers will surely appreciate obviating the need for >> an optical drive, and wouldn't notice a $1 increase in the overall price. > > That's a good point. Many laptops don't have optical disks now. But > then can't you always download the files from the Internet? When you > buy a PC they don't even give you a DVD with the OS anymore to save the > $0.50. >
Downloading hundreds of MBs, let alone some GBs, is not a trivial matter for many people. For example, I'm now using a 1Mb/s ADSL connection. This gives me a 100 KB/s download speed on a good day but often drops to less than 20 KB/s. I also have a 2 Mb/s line but that's capped to 2.5 GB per month. Downloading the most essential drivers totalling, say 500 MB, can take hours. And there are millions and millions of others in the same situation. Besides, someone without easy access to another computer - again there are millions - won't be able to download anything until they have the drivers. Catch-22.
On 1/22/2017 1:18 PM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 21 January 2017 06:16:04 UTC, Pimpom wrote: >> On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote: >>> I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. >>> >> I've been wondering for some time now why companies like >> motherboard manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash >> drives instead of on CDs and DVDs. >> >> A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like >> SanDisk now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably >> get them in bulk for less than $1. That may still be higher than >> the cost of pressing an optical disc > > there's why. 10,000 x an extra $ is $10,000. >
But that's easily passed on to the customer. Companies regularly spend more than that in non-essential overheads.
>> but customers will surely >> appreciate obviating the need for an optical drive, and wouldn't >> notice a $1 increase in the overall price. > > that happens, if at all, after the customer has paid, at which point the company's only interest is to fulfil the contract at minimum cost. >
I beg to differ. I, for one, will certainly be more inclined to buy a product with drivers on a flash drive than one with an optical disc. Just as I'd choose a product that comes with a driver over one whose drivers have to be downloaded, all other things being equal.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:48:03 -0800 (PST), the renowned
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

>On Saturday, 21 January 2017 06:16:04 UTC, Pimpom wrote: >> On 1/19/2017 10:18 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote: >> > I usually dump these junk mails, but something fell out of it. I almost missed it, but it's a 4G USB flash drive. I guess flash is cheaper than paper now. >> > >> I've been wondering for some time now why companies like >> motherboard manufacturers don't supply their drivers in USB flash >> drives instead of on CDs and DVDs. >> >> A 4GB USB2 utility flash drive from a reliable manufacturer like >> SanDisk now be had for less than US$3 retail. OEMs can probably >> get them in bulk for less than $1. That may still be higher than >> the cost of pressing an optical disc > >there's why. 10,000 x an extra $ is $10,000.
Also lets them ship the hardware before the drivers etc. are stable. Gets rid of a whole layer of logistics to make sure the (more stable) hardware is tied together with decent drivers and software. You can slap a blank hard drive in a MAC and hook it up to the internet and it will get busy and download and install a fresh copy of the OS. No media to lose, no driver disks, no screwing about. Of course they can only do that because of the limited variations etc.
>> but customers will surely >> appreciate obviating the need for an optical drive, and wouldn't >> notice a $1 increase in the overall price. > >that happens, if at all, after the customer has paid, at which point the company's only interest is to fulfil the contract at minimum cost. > > >NT
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