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Zener diode below-threshold reverse current

Started by Tim Wescott June 23, 2016
In article <g2g5obdofm1l7goo764lkpff6ohadecllt@4ax.com>, 
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com says...
> >Wescott was obviously referring to a three terminal series regulator, > >so your rsponse is irrelevant. > > > >As to your damnation of 6.8 volt Zeners, 6.8 volts is pretty close to > >where, with the specified reverse current through the diode, the > >Zener's tempco goes away, so why would you think 6.8 volt Zeners suck? > > > >John Fields > > Good grief, you only post here to be deliberately obnoxious. What a > sucky way to live. >
You know what they say John, misery loves company! Jamie
On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote:

>> > You know what they say John, misery loves company!
As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them." Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
On 7/12/2016 9:44 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote: > >>> >> You know what they say John, misery loves company! > > As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw > has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, > > "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them."
I didn't see a smiley so I have to assume you are serious. That's not what it means. It means we find it hard to be sympathetic when we are miserable and have little pity for others. Or, seeing others as miserable as ourselves makes us feel better. I heard a report on the radio the other day that essentially said this. We don't measure our life situation in absolute terms, rather in relative terms compared to those around us. -- Rick C
Den tirsdag den 12. juli 2016 kl. 17.41.01 UTC+2 skrev rickman:
> On 7/12/2016 9:44 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote: > > On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote: > > > >>> > >> You know what they say John, misery loves company! > > > > As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw > > has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, > > > > "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them." > > I didn't see a smiley so I have to assume you are serious. That's not > what it means. It means we find it hard to be sympathetic when we are > miserable and have little pity for others. Or, seeing others as > miserable as ourselves makes us feel better. > > I heard a report on the radio the other day that essentially said this. > We don't measure our life situation in absolute terms, rather in > relative terms compared to those around us.
that explains the popularity of reality shows with dumb people and dysfunctional families -Lasse
On 07/12/2016 11:40 AM, rickman wrote:
> On 7/12/2016 9:44 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote: >> >>>> >>> You know what they say John, misery loves company! >> >> As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw >> has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, >> >> "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them." > > I didn't see a smiley so I have to assume you are serious. That's not > what it means. It means we find it hard to be sympathetic when we are > miserable and have little pity for others. Or, seeing others as > miserable as ourselves makes us feel better.
That's what it means _now_, which is my point. It originally wasn't nasty or sarcastic at all. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 11:50:24 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> Den tirsdag den 12. juli 2016 kl. 17.41.01 UTC+2 skrev rickman: > > On 7/12/2016 9:44 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote: > > > On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >> You know what they say John, misery loves company! > > > > > > As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw > > > has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, > > > > > > "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them." > > > > I didn't see a smiley so I have to assume you are serious. That's not > > what it means. It means we find it hard to be sympathetic when we are > > miserable and have little pity for others. Or, seeing others as > > miserable as ourselves makes us feel better. > > > > I heard a report on the radio the other day that essentially said this. > > We don't measure our life situation in absolute terms, rather in > > relative terms compared to those around us. > > that explains the popularity of reality shows with dumb people and > dysfunctional families > > -Lasse
I think it accounts for political differences too. "The French want no-one to be their superior. The English want inferiors. The Frenchman constantly raises his eyes above him with anxiety. The Englishman lowers his beneath him with satisfaction." --Alexis de Tocqueville But I measure my life in absolute terms, not against what others have. If I'm warm, with enough to eat, I'm happy! And when I do measure against others, I find tremendous bounty in what others scorn-- the poorest American can buy strawberries out of season, bananas from Honduras, kiwis from God knows where, has a car, an air conditioner, a cell phone, and a TV. 100 years ago, no king had any of those. Too many people worry not that they have enough, but that someone else has more. We truly live like kings. No--better. Cheers, James Arthur
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 11:50:24 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >> Den tirsdag den 12. juli 2016 kl. 17.41.01 UTC+2 skrev rickman: >> > On 7/12/2016 9:44 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> > > On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote: >> > > >> > >>> >> > >> You know what they say John, misery loves company! >> > > >> > > As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw >> > > has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, >> > > >> > > "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them." >> > >> > I didn't see a smiley so I have to assume you are serious. That's not >> > what it means. It means we find it hard to be sympathetic when we are >> > miserable and have little pity for others. Or, seeing others as >> > miserable as ourselves makes us feel better. >> > >> > I heard a report on the radio the other day that essentially said this. >> > We don't measure our life situation in absolute terms, rather in >> > relative terms compared to those around us. >> >> that explains the popularity of reality shows with dumb people and >> dysfunctional families >> >> -Lasse > >I think it accounts for political differences too. > >"The French want no-one to be their superior. The English want inferiors. > The Frenchman constantly raises his eyes above him with anxiety. The > Englishman lowers his beneath him with satisfaction." > --Alexis de Tocqueville > >But I measure my life in absolute terms, not against what others have. >If I'm warm, with enough to eat, I'm happy! And when I do measure >against others, I find tremendous bounty in what others scorn-- > > the poorest American can buy strawberries out of season, bananas from >Honduras, kiwis from God knows where, has a car, an air conditioner, >a cell phone, and a TV. 100 years ago, no king had any of those. > >Too many people worry not that they have enough, but that someone else >has more. > >We truly live like kings. No--better. > >Cheers, >James Arthur
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 11:50:24 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >> Den tirsdag den 12. juli 2016 kl. 17.41.01 UTC+2 skrev rickman: >> > On 7/12/2016 9:44 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> > > On 07/10/2016 08:38 PM, M Philbrook wrote: >> > > >> > >>> >> > >> You know what they say John, misery loves company! >> > > >> > > As an aside, that's an instance where a sarcastic twist on an old saw >> > > has taken over from the original meaning, which of course was, >> > > >> > > "People who are sad or in trouble feel better if you go visit them." >> > >> > I didn't see a smiley so I have to assume you are serious. That's not >> > what it means. It means we find it hard to be sympathetic when we are >> > miserable and have little pity for others. Or, seeing others as >> > miserable as ourselves makes us feel better. >> > >> > I heard a report on the radio the other day that essentially said this. >> > We don't measure our life situation in absolute terms, rather in >> > relative terms compared to those around us. >> >> that explains the popularity of reality shows with dumb people and >> dysfunctional families >> >> -Lasse > >I think it accounts for political differences too. > >"The French want no-one to be their superior. The English want inferiors. > The Frenchman constantly raises his eyes above him with anxiety. The > Englishman lowers his beneath him with satisfaction." > --Alexis de Tocqueville > >But I measure my life in absolute terms, not against what others have. >If I'm warm, with enough to eat, I'm happy! And when I do measure >against others, I find tremendous bounty in what others scorn-- > > the poorest American can buy strawberries out of season, bananas from >Honduras, kiwis from God knows where, has a car, an air conditioner, >a cell phone, and a TV. 100 years ago, no king had any of those. > >Too many people worry not that they have enough, but that someone else >has more. > >We truly live like kings. No--better. > >Cheers, >James Arthur
Mo and I were sitting at a table near the window of our neighborhood French restaurant snacking on beer and oysters and cassoulet (I'm eating the leftover cassoulet this instant... it holds up nicely) and we noted that the entire population of the planet could live like this, if people weren't such jerks. The average person in a developed country does live better than Henry 8th or Louis 14th. I bet the beer and wine at 7-11 is better than anything they had. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
On 7/12/2016 3:08 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> > Mo and I were sitting at a table near the window of our neighborhood > French restaurant snacking on beer and oysters and cassoulet (I'm > eating the leftover cassoulet this instant... it holds up nicely) and > we noted that the entire population of the planet could live like > this, if people weren't such jerks.
How would that work exactly? How are you going to pay the person who collects your garbage or serves you those oysters the same as what you make? Sounds very socialistic to me. -- Rick C
On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 3:14:43 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
> On 7/12/2016 3:08 PM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > Mo and I were sitting at a table near the window of our neighborhood > > French restaurant snacking on beer and oysters and cassoulet (I'm > > eating the leftover cassoulet this instant... it holds up nicely) and > > we noted that the entire population of the planet could live like > > this, if people weren't such jerks. > > How would that work exactly? How are you going to pay the person who > collects your garbage or serves you those oysters the same as what you > make? Sounds very socialistic to me. > > -- > > Rick C
Why are we wealthier than the cavemen? We both started with the same raw materials (and in fact they had them arguably greater abundance, since none of them had been used). So why? The answer lies in our accumulated knowledge, and our codes of conduct, with the latter a /sine qua non/ for the former. But socialistic codes of conduct have a poor history for creating wealth. Rather, they prey on wealth once it exists, dragging it down. "There is in fact a manly and legitimate passion for equality that spurs all men to wish to be strong and esteemed. This passion tends to elevate the lesser to the rank of the greater. But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom." --Alexis de Tocqueville, Ancien Regime and the Revolution Cheers, James Arthur