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OT: electric car drama

Started by bitrex January 12, 2016
So there's a little shopping plaza down the street from me, with a
 Starbucks. A few weeks ago, the plaza management decided to
 install an EV charger system outside the Starbucks apparently to
 bring in business for electric car owners. The machine charges a
 nominal fee per hour to charge there.

Problem is, the parking in the lot is very tight, and in the
 morning it's crowded. They installed the charger spots in prime
 real estate in front of the store, and even though there is a
 sign posted that the spots are for EV charging only now, people
 just...ignore it and park their BMWs in the spots.
 

From time to time in the past couple weeks I've tried to get one
 of the spots in the morning only to find them always occupied by
 non-EVs.  So I go into the store and say "Hey, could the owner of
 the blah blah blahs please move your vehicle? You're parked in
 the EV charging spot."

And everyone looks at me like I have ten heads. And then a half
 hour later the owner of one of the cars parked in the spot slinks
 out of the Starbucks and drives away.

Today the same thing happened, and I asked the drivers in the
 store to please move their vehicle, with the same non-response.
 Feeling frustrated I go "Hey, no problem, but just to let you
 know I'm double parked behind you. Let me know when you're all
 set. I have plenty of time." And sat down in my car to read my
 emails.

About an hour later the manager of the Starbucks comes rocketing
 out hollering at me "Move it! Move your car! Now!"
 

Me: "Why? Is someone upset that I'm parked against the rules?"

"Move your fuckin' car right now or I'm calling the police!"

Alright, well, you said the magic words.

I'm probably not going to be back there.












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On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:42:29 -0500 (EST), bitrex
<bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

> >So there's a little shopping plaza down the street from me, with a > Starbucks. A few weeks ago, the plaza management decided to > install an EV charger system outside the Starbucks apparently to > bring in business for electric car owners. The machine charges a > nominal fee per hour to charge there. > >Problem is, the parking in the lot is very tight, and in the > morning it's crowded. They installed the charger spots in prime > real estate in front of the store, and even though there is a > sign posted that the spots are for EV charging only now, people > just...ignore it and park their BMWs in the spots. > > >From time to time in the past couple weeks I've tried to get one > of the spots in the morning only to find them always occupied by > non-EVs. So I go into the store and say "Hey, could the owner of > the blah blah blahs please move your vehicle? You're parked in > the EV charging spot." > >And everyone looks at me like I have ten heads. And then a half > hour later the owner of one of the cars parked in the spot slinks > out of the Starbucks and drives away. > >Today the same thing happened, and I asked the drivers in the > store to please move their vehicle, with the same non-response. > Feeling frustrated I go "Hey, no problem, but just to let you > know I'm double parked behind you. Let me know when you're all > set. I have plenty of time." And sat down in my car to read my > emails. > >About an hour later the manager of the Starbucks comes rocketing > out hollering at me "Move it! Move your car! Now!" > > >Me: "Why? Is someone upset that I'm parked against the rules?" > >"Move your fuckin' car right now or I'm calling the police!" > >Alright, well, you said the magic words. > >I'm probably not going to be back there.
Seems like it was a good way to find out who the owner was. Guess it didn't quite work the way it should have. I don't blame you for not wanting to go back into that shop.
boB <boB@noplacelikehome.com> Wrote in message:
> Seems like it was a good way to find out who the owner was. > Guess it didn't quite work the way it should have. I don't blame you > for not wanting to go back into that shop. >
The funny thing is, I spoke with the head manager about it. She goes "oh well, you know, we have no authority as to what goes on in the parking lot. If people want to park there, it's not a crime. We don't have the authority to tell people what to do when it's outside the building." So next time I double park in front of them, and the shift manager threatens me, I'll just say "Hey, your boss tells me you have no authority as to what goes on in the parking lot. You'll have to take it up with the PD." IMO in a normal world, the management would be sticking up for me, not defending people parking against the rules and threatening me (the legitimate customer!) instead. EV drivers are a community at the moment. If other drivers are made aware that not only are those spaces usually taken, but that the management of the business in front of them will also give you grief for wanting to use them for their intended purpose, they won't see a dime. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
> > > > The funny thing is, I spoke with the head manager about it. She > goes "oh well, you know, we have no authority as to what goes on > in the parking lot. If people want to park there, it's not a > crime. We don't have the authority to tell people what to do when > it's outside the building." >
Clarify... did you want to actually use the EV spot to charge your EV Vehicle? or were you just unhappy that someone parked where they should not have? Mark
makolber@yahoo.com Wrote in message:
> >> > >> >> The funny thing is, I spoke with the head manager about it. She >> goes "oh well, you know, we have no authority as to what goes on >> in the parking lot. If people want to park there, it's not a >> crime. We don't have the authority to tell people what to do when >> it's outside the building." >> > > Clarify... > > did you want to actually use the EV spot to charge your EV Vehicle? > > or were you just unhappy that someone parked where they should not have? > > Mark >
I wished to use it for its intended purpose, I have an electric car. The same situation repeated today. I had the card of the head of maintenance for the plaza, so I called him up and asked if there was anything he could do. He essentially told me to fuck off. "I can't ask anyone to move. I'm way too busy to deal with this. Stop making trouble." -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:57:48 -0500 (EST), bitrex
<bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

>makolber@yahoo.com Wrote in message: >> >>> > >>> >>> The funny thing is, I spoke with the head manager about it. She >>> goes "oh well, you know, we have no authority as to what goes on >>> in the parking lot. If people want to park there, it's not a >>> crime. We don't have the authority to tell people what to do when >>> it's outside the building." >>> >> >> Clarify... >> >> did you want to actually use the EV spot to charge your EV Vehicle? >> >> or were you just unhappy that someone parked where they should not have? >> >> Mark >> > >I wished to use it for its intended purpose, I have an electric car. > >The same situation repeated today. I had the card of the head of > maintenance for the plaza, so I called him up and asked if there > was anything he could do. > >He essentially told me to fuck off. "I can't ask anyone to move. > I'm way too busy to deal with this. Stop making trouble."
So it's a private parking lot owned by the shopping plaza? The only thing the cops can enforce in such situations is violation of handicapped spaces... controlled by legislative fiat. So, "Stop making trouble" >:-} ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
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> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:57:48 -0500 (EST), bitrex > <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > >>makolber@yahoo.com Wrote in message: >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> The funny thing is, I spoke with the head manager about it. She >>>> goes "oh well, you know, we have no authority as to what goes on >>>> in the parking lot. If people want to park there, it's not a >>>> crime. We don't have the authority to tell people what to do when >>>> it's outside the building." >>>> >>> >>> Clarify... >>> >>> did you want to actually use the EV spot to charge your EV Vehicle? >>> >>> or were you just unhappy that someone parked where they should not have? >>> >>> Mark >>> >> >>I wished to use it for its intended purpose, I have an electric car. >> >>The same situation repeated today. I had the card of the head of >> maintenance for the plaza, so I called him up and asked if there >> was anything he could do. >> >>He essentially told me to fuck off. "I can't ask anyone to move. >> I'm way too busy to deal with this. Stop making trouble." > > So it's a private parking lot owned by the shopping plaza? > > The only thing the cops can enforce in such situations is violation of > handicapped spaces... controlled by legislative fiat. > > So, "Stop making trouble" >:-} > > ...Jim Thompson
Yeah, but you can't have it both ways. The point of installing the system is to drive business for the plaza for people with electric cars. But it's worthless if people who don't have electric vehicles park there day in and day out blocking access. Word gets around, and drivers will avoid that lot if that's the dynamic. I don't expect the cops do do anything, but I do expect the management of the restaurant and the plaza to enforce their own rules. Not give me a huge attitude problem. Do you want my money or not? I'm not going to grovel for the privilege. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
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> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:57:48 -0500 (EST), bitrex > <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > >>makolber@yahoo.com Wrote in message: >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> The funny thing is, I spoke with the head manager about it. She >>>> goes "oh well, you know, we have no authority as to what goes on >>>> in the parking lot. If people want to park there, it's not a >>>> crime. We don't have the authority to tell people what to do when >>>> it's outside the building." >>>> >>> >>> Clarify... >>> >>> did you want to actually use the EV spot to charge your EV Vehicle? >>> >>> or were you just unhappy that someone parked where they should not have? >>> >>> Mark >>> >> >>I wished to use it for its intended purpose, I have an electric car. >> >>The same situation repeated today. I had the card of the head of >> maintenance for the plaza, so I called him up and asked if there >> was anything he could do. >> >>He essentially told me to fuck off. "I can't ask anyone to move. >> I'm way too busy to deal with this. Stop making trouble." > > So it's a private parking lot owned by the shopping plaza? > > The only thing the cops can enforce in such situations is violation of > handicapped spaces... controlled by legislative fiat. > > So, "Stop making trouble" >:-} > > ...Jim Thompson > --
New Englanders are all about getting up in other people's business and making trouble if they're being jerks. Our Puritan herritage runs deep. Number one way to piss us off is lackadaisical, bungled ideas like this one. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:21:46 -0500 (EST), bitrex
<bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote:

[snip]
> >New Englanders are all about getting up in other people's business > and making trouble if they're being jerks. Our Puritan herritage > runs deep. > >Number one way to piss us off is lackadaisical, bungled ideas like > this one.
As I recall it, New Englanders, particularly around Boston, ARE jerks
>:-}
...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com>
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> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:21:46 -0500 (EST), bitrex > <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> wrote: > > [snip] >> >>New Englanders are all about getting up in other people's business >> and making trouble if they're being jerks. Our Puritan herritage >> runs deep. >> >>Number one way to piss us off is lackadaisical, bungled ideas like >> this one. > > As I recall it, New Englanders, particularly around Boston, ARE jerks >>:-} > > ...Jim Thompson > --
True! And the hilarious thing is, there's a Tesla dealership right down the street. The staff and management is probably thinking "Whew, glad we got rid of that jerk (even though it's really the people unable to obey signs that are the jerks.) But yeah, wait until those guys start showing up. I was just the first jerk...;) -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/