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OT: MicroChip problems

Started by Robert Baer August 24, 2015
1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow 
adding of a credit card.
2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot 
run.
3) Posting messages seems to do no good.
On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:37:34 AM UTC+2, Robert Baer wrote:
> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow > adding of a credit card. > 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot > run. > 3) Posting messages seems to do no good.
Paypal? Change from Microchip to another microcontroller manufactorer :-) Cheers Klaus
On 24/08/2015 07:37, Robert Baer wrote:
> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow > adding of a credit card.
Try a different browser. Some sites will only work if you enable cookies and have the right (ie usually modern) browser.
> 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot > run.
Why not? Have you met the requirements for installing it?
> 3) Posting messages seems to do no good.
You don't give enough information to be helped. -- Regards, Martin Brown
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 23:37:32 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

>1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow >adding of a credit card.
Buy it from Mouser. Or (better) use a device with debug on the chip. Unless it's really high volume there's no particular cost saving. Eg. PIC16F819 or the newer PIC16F1826 (the latter is considerably cheaper).
>2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot >run.
The system requirements are minimal, but it runs and it's slow as molasses on old-as-dirt machines. Use MPLAB 8 if you have a 'classic' (POS) machine. Poke around and you'll find the download on their website for every version of MPLAB.
>3) Posting messages seems to do no good.
Never does. Maybe try AVR? or Arduino? --sp -- Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition: http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8 Microchip link for 2015 Masters in Phoenix: http://tinyurl.com/l7g2k48
On 24/08/2015 07:37, Robert Baer wrote:
> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow > adding of a credit card. > 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot > run. > 3) Posting messages seems to do no good.
1) Buy from a disty or make your own, it is just an overpriced socket and a few pins. 2) Works fine for me. Microchip has an archive of older versions you could try. 3) Dunno, I never had need to. piglet
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:02:53 +0100, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 24/08/2015 07:37, Robert Baer wrote: >> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow >> adding of a credit card. >> 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot >> run. >> 3) Posting messages seems to do no good. > >1) Buy from a disty or make your own, it is just an overpriced socket >and a few pins.
Nah, that chip is missing the on-chip debug function so the 'header' has another chip on there 16F648 or something that adds the missing functionality. I seldom use ICD for something that simply anyway, prefer the MPLAB mpsim simulator and use ICD2 or ICD3 or RealIce to program the chip, which requires no header. The on-chip ICD has limitations anyway.
>2) Works fine for me. Microchip has an archive of older versions you >could try. > >3) Dunno, I never had need to. > >piglet
--sp -- Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition: http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8 Microchip link for 2015 Masters in Phoenix: http://tinyurl.com/l7g2k48
On 24/08/2015 17:59, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

> Nah, that chip is missing the on-chip debug function so the 'header' > has another chip on there 16F648 or something that adds the missing > functionality.
Ahh, thanks for clearing that up Spehro.
> I seldom use ICD for something that simply anyway, prefer the MPLAB > mpsim simulator and use ICD2 or ICD3 or RealIce to program the chip, > which requires no header. The on-chip ICD has limitations anyway. >
I've never needed to use external debugging on a PIC, the IDE simulator or inserting debug code into my code have been enough for me. piglet
Klaus Kragelund wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:37:34 AM UTC+2, Robert Baer wrote: >> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow >> adding of a credit card. >> 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot >> run. >> 3) Posting messages seems to do no good. > > Paypal? > > Change from Microchip to another microcontroller manufactorer :-) > > Cheers > > Klaus
I have been screwed by "Pay" "Pal" a few times, where they failed to pay and when they were most assuredly NO pal (hang up instantly if you utter the word "refund".
Martin Brown wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 07:37, Robert Baer wrote: >> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow >> adding of a credit card. > > Try a different browser. Some sites will only work if you enable cookies > and have the right (ie usually modern) browser.
* i always have cookies enabled. Ignoring the Insipid Exterminator, define your version of "modern".
> >> 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot >> run. > > Why not? Have you met the requirements for installing it?
* WHAT requirements; no mention..
> >> 3) Posting messages seems to do no good.
* Been 3 daze,NO response.
> > You don't give enough information to be helped. >
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 23:37:32 -0700, Robert Baer > <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: > >> 1) Cannot order header AC162053 because their site refuses to allow >> adding of a credit card. > > Buy it from Mouser. Or (better) use a device with debug on the chip. > Unless it's really high volume there's no particular cost saving. > > Eg. PIC16F819 or the newer PIC16F1826 (the latter is considerably > cheaper). > >> 2) Their new IDE, MPLABX-v3.05-windows-installer.exe does not and cannot >> run. > > The system requirements are minimal, but it runs and it's slow as > molasses on old-as-dirt machines. Use MPLAB 8 if you have a 'classic' > (POS) machine. Poke around and you'll find the download on their > website for every version of MPLAB. > >> 3) Posting messages seems to do no good. > > Never does. Maybe try AVR? or Arduino? > > --sp > >
Client insists on PIC. Will look at those 2 you mentioned; thanks.