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Started by John Larkin January 24, 2015
John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:26:46 -0800, Joerg<news@analogconsultants.com> > wrote: > >> On 2015-01-24 9:25 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>> >>> We're looking for a PCB layout person. Any referrals appreciated. >>> >>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/egr/4860768170.html >>> >> >> I'd call it layouter in the title or maybe "Layout / CAD / Technical >> Writing". Because a designer is mostly understood as a person who can >> design electronics from scratch and many layouters can't do that. >> Meaning if they see a job title "Electronic Designer" they may not look >> any deeper into it even though they could be a good fit. >> >> Might want to mention design reviews at Zeitgeist, but not the little >> old lady setting the bus stop on fire :-) > > She didn't set the bus stop on fire, she set our building on fire. > > Here's the video, but it's 102 megabytes. Parts were on the local TV > news, and we gave it to the cops, which helped them track her down... > crazy old lady. > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Otis/Arson/Front-Left%207-24-2009.avi > > >
You can _still_ get good layouters from the res..
John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:26:46 -0800, Joerg<news@analogconsultants.com> > wrote: > >> On 2015-01-24 9:25 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>> >>> We're looking for a PCB layout person. Any referrals appreciated. >>> >>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/egr/4860768170.html >>> >> >> I'd call it layouter in the title or maybe "Layout / CAD / Technical >> Writing". Because a designer is mostly understood as a person who can >> design electronics from scratch and many layouters can't do that. >> Meaning if they see a job title "Electronic Designer" they may not look >> any deeper into it even though they could be a good fit. >> >> Might want to mention design reviews at Zeitgeist, but not the little >> old lady setting the bus stop on fire :-) > > She didn't set the bus stop on fire, she set our building on fire. > > Here's the video, but it's 102 megabytes. Parts were on the local TV > news, and we gave it to the cops, which helped them track her down... > crazy old lady. > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Otis/Arson/Front-Left%207-24-2009.avi > > >
Interesting...at 1:09 AKA timecode 06:27.49AM, a car approached the fire on the WRONG side of the street and stops, driver sees fire, BACKS UP, stops again, backs up yet again, and STILL on wrong side of street, backs up off screen and then goes way elsewhere. Talk about other illegal activity, the fire engine emergency lights are TURNED OFF and left that way for the rest of the activity WRT the fire. Could cite the cop car as well... And without enhancement, how does anyone know it was a woman as clothes make for excellent disguise?
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:00:02 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:26:46 -0800, Joerg<news@analogconsultants.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-01-24 9:25 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>>> >>>> We're looking for a PCB layout person. Any referrals appreciated. >>>> >>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/egr/4860768170.html >>>> >>> >>> I'd call it layouter in the title or maybe "Layout / CAD / Technical >>> Writing". Because a designer is mostly understood as a person who can >>> design electronics from scratch and many layouters can't do that. >>> Meaning if they see a job title "Electronic Designer" they may not look >>> any deeper into it even though they could be a good fit. >>> >>> Might want to mention design reviews at Zeitgeist, but not the little >>> old lady setting the bus stop on fire :-) >> >> She didn't set the bus stop on fire, she set our building on fire. >> >> Here's the video, but it's 102 megabytes. Parts were on the local TV >> news, and we gave it to the cops, which helped them track her down... >> crazy old lady. >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Otis/Arson/Front-Left%207-24-2009.avi >> >> >> > Interesting...at 1:09 AKA timecode 06:27.49AM, a car approached the >fire on the WRONG side of the street and stops, driver sees fire, BACKS >UP, stops again, backs up yet again, and STILL on wrong side of street, >backs up off screen and then goes way elsewhere.
Otis is a one-way street. Nobody here cares about traffic laws anyhow.
> Talk about other illegal activity, the fire engine emergency lights >are TURNED OFF and left that way for the rest of the activity WRT the fire. > Could cite the cop car as well...
Ummm, who would do that?
> > And without enhancement, how does anyone know it was a woman as >clothes make for excellent disguise?
Well, they caught her. She had been taking busses all over town and setting fires, but our video was the first hint of what she looked like. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:00:02 -0800, Robert Baer > <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: > >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:26:46 -0800, Joerg<news@analogconsultants.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-01-24 9:25 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We're looking for a PCB layout person. Any referrals appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/egr/4860768170.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd call it layouter in the title or maybe "Layout / CAD / Technical >>>> Writing". Because a designer is mostly understood as a person who can >>>> design electronics from scratch and many layouters can't do that. >>>> Meaning if they see a job title "Electronic Designer" they may not look >>>> any deeper into it even though they could be a good fit. >>>> >>>> Might want to mention design reviews at Zeitgeist, but not the little >>>> old lady setting the bus stop on fire :-) >>> >>> She didn't set the bus stop on fire, she set our building on fire. >>> >>> Here's the video, but it's 102 megabytes. Parts were on the local TV >>> news, and we gave it to the cops, which helped them track her down... >>> crazy old lady. >>> >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Otis/Arson/Front-Left%207-24-2009.avi >>> >>> >>> >> Interesting...at 1:09 AKA timecode 06:27.49AM, a car approached the >> fire on the WRONG side of the street and stops, driver sees fire, BACKS >> UP, stops again, backs up yet again, and STILL on wrong side of street, >> backs up off screen and then goes way elsewhere. > > Otis is a one-way street. Nobody here cares about traffic laws anyhow. > >> Talk about other illegal activity, the fire engine emergency lights >> are TURNED OFF and left that way for the rest of the activity WRT the fire. >> Could cite the cop car as well... > > Ummm, who would do that? > >> >> And without enhancement, how does anyone know it was a woman as >> clothes make for excellent disguise? > > Well, they caught her. She had been taking busses all over town and > setting fires, but our video was the first hint of what she looked > like. > >
Well, the that driver was definitely not legal...going the wrong way, except when backing up... Then i think the cops had that part of the video enhanced and had something to work with - a mug shot.
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:50:09 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:00:02 -0800, Robert Baer >> <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:26:46 -0800, Joerg<news@analogconsultants.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-01-24 9:25 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We're looking for a PCB layout person. Any referrals appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/egr/4860768170.html >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'd call it layouter in the title or maybe "Layout / CAD / Technical >>>>> Writing". Because a designer is mostly understood as a person who can >>>>> design electronics from scratch and many layouters can't do that. >>>>> Meaning if they see a job title "Electronic Designer" they may not look >>>>> any deeper into it even though they could be a good fit. >>>>> >>>>> Might want to mention design reviews at Zeitgeist, but not the little >>>>> old lady setting the bus stop on fire :-) >>>> >>>> She didn't set the bus stop on fire, she set our building on fire. >>>> >>>> Here's the video, but it's 102 megabytes. Parts were on the local TV >>>> news, and we gave it to the cops, which helped them track her down... >>>> crazy old lady. >>>> >>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Otis/Arson/Front-Left%207-24-2009.avi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Interesting...at 1:09 AKA timecode 06:27.49AM, a car approached the >>> fire on the WRONG side of the street and stops, driver sees fire, BACKS >>> UP, stops again, backs up yet again, and STILL on wrong side of street, >>> backs up off screen and then goes way elsewhere. >> >> Otis is a one-way street. Nobody here cares about traffic laws anyhow. >> >>> Talk about other illegal activity, the fire engine emergency lights >>> are TURNED OFF and left that way for the rest of the activity WRT the fire. >>> Could cite the cop car as well... >> >> Ummm, who would do that? >> >>> >>> And without enhancement, how does anyone know it was a woman as >>> clothes make for excellent disguise? >> >> Well, they caught her. She had been taking busses all over town and >> setting fires, but our video was the first hint of what she looked >> like. >> >> > Well, the that driver was definitely not legal...going the wrong way, >except when backing up... > > Then i think the cops had that part of the video enhanced and had >something to work with - a mug shot.
There's probably not much there to enhance. It's always amusing to see a teevee detective show (or an old Star Trek) where they enhance some fuzzy image, like a bad photo or a pic in a newspaper, and zoom it up 1000:1 to see some critical detail. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
"John Larkin" <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in message 
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>> Then i think the cops had that part of the video enhanced and had >>something to work with - a mug shot. > > There's probably not much there to enhance. > > It's always amusing to see a teevee detective show (or an old Star > Trek) where they enhance some fuzzy image, like a bad photo or a pic > in a newspaper, and zoom it up 1000:1 to see some critical detail.
To be fair, the Enterprise (and etc.) is presumably equipped with excellent telescopes, covering not only a large swath of the EM spectrum, but particle instruments as well (the Deflector being a key plot point in generating many signals, particle beams and so on). A counter-example from TV; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwnI0RS6J5A For those unfortunate enough not to know, Futurama is one of the smartest cartoon shows out there. Generally very well written, the easter eggs include a complete published (novel) proof appearing in an episode. Tim -- Seven Transistor Labs Electrical Engineering Consultation Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com
John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:50:09 -0800, Robert Baer > <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: > >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:00:02 -0800, Robert Baer >>> <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:26:46 -0800, Joerg<news@analogconsultants.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-01-24 9:25 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're looking for a PCB layout person. Any referrals appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/egr/4860768170.html >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd call it layouter in the title or maybe "Layout / CAD / Technical >>>>>> Writing". Because a designer is mostly understood as a person who can >>>>>> design electronics from scratch and many layouters can't do that. >>>>>> Meaning if they see a job title "Electronic Designer" they may not look >>>>>> any deeper into it even though they could be a good fit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Might want to mention design reviews at Zeitgeist, but not the little >>>>>> old lady setting the bus stop on fire :-) >>>>> >>>>> She didn't set the bus stop on fire, she set our building on fire. >>>>> >>>>> Here's the video, but it's 102 megabytes. Parts were on the local TV >>>>> news, and we gave it to the cops, which helped them track her down... >>>>> crazy old lady. >>>>> >>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Otis/Arson/Front-Left%207-24-2009.avi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Interesting...at 1:09 AKA timecode 06:27.49AM, a car approached the >>>> fire on the WRONG side of the street and stops, driver sees fire, BACKS >>>> UP, stops again, backs up yet again, and STILL on wrong side of street, >>>> backs up off screen and then goes way elsewhere. >>> >>> Otis is a one-way street. Nobody here cares about traffic laws anyhow. >>> >>>> Talk about other illegal activity, the fire engine emergency lights >>>> are TURNED OFF and left that way for the rest of the activity WRT the fire. >>>> Could cite the cop car as well... >>> >>> Ummm, who would do that? >>> >>>> >>>> And without enhancement, how does anyone know it was a woman as >>>> clothes make for excellent disguise? >>> >>> Well, they caught her. She had been taking busses all over town and >>> setting fires, but our video was the first hint of what she looked >>> like. >>> >>> >> Well, the that driver was definitely not legal...going the wrong way, >> except when backing up... >> >> Then i think the cops had that part of the video enhanced and had >> something to work with - a mug shot. > > There's probably not much there to enhance. > > It's always amusing to see a teevee detective show (or an old Star > Trek) where they enhance some fuzzy image, like a bad photo or a pic > in a newspaper, and zoom it up 1000:1 to see some critical detail. > >
Well, there are a lot of frames to work with, plus movement - combo allowing averaging to reduce noise/graininess; would think that 5:1 would be practical. Refer to what was done with the MARS pictures.
>"A counter-example from TV; >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwnI0RS6J5A >For those unfortunate enough not to know, Futurama is one of the smartest >cartoon shows out there. Generally very well written, the easter eggs >include a complete published (novel) proof appearing in an episode. "
If I decided to watch TV again, Matt Groenig's wor would be on my list. The guy is a total fucking comedic genius. OPne of the best IMO, and possibly even better than Monty Python and Mel Brooks. And those shows do NOT have canned laughter. Tha tis the biggest plus. I cannot stand canned laughter. Tell me when to laugh, what idiocy.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:27:03 -0600, "Tim Williams"
<tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> wrote:

>"John Larkin" <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in message >news:bdvhcal633aokg3qo2lr9n6stuthqv9039@4ax.com... >>> Then i think the cops had that part of the video enhanced and had >>>something to work with - a mug shot. >> >> There's probably not much there to enhance. >> >> It's always amusing to see a teevee detective show (or an old Star >> Trek) where they enhance some fuzzy image, like a bad photo or a pic >> in a newspaper, and zoom it up 1000:1 to see some critical detail. > >To be fair, the Enterprise (and etc.) is presumably equipped with >excellent telescopes, covering not only a large swath of the EM spectrum, >but particle instruments as well (the Deflector being a key plot point in >generating many signals, particle beams and so on).
Then why does it display a fuzzy image until Captain Kirk shouts "enhance!" -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
On 28/01/2015 19:25, Robert Baer wrote:
> John Larkin wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:50:09 -0800, Robert Baer >> <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:00:02 -0800, Robert Baer >>>> <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And without enhancement, how does anyone know it was a woman as >>>>> clothes make for excellent disguise? >>>> >>>> Well, they caught her. She had been taking busses all over town and >>>> setting fires, but our video was the first hint of what she looked >>>> like. >>>> >>> Well, the that driver was definitely not legal...going the wrong way, >>> except when backing up... >>> >>> Then i think the cops had that part of the video enhanced and had >>> something to work with - a mug shot. >> >> There's probably not much there to enhance. >> >> It's always amusing to see a teevee detective show (or an old Star >> Trek) where they enhance some fuzzy image, like a bad photo or a pic >> in a newspaper, and zoom it up 1000:1 to see some critical detail.
The famous scene you are thinking of was "enhance" in Bladerunner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHepKd38pr0
> Well, there are a lot of frames to work with, plus movement - combo > allowing averaging to reduce noise/graininess; would think that 5:1 > would be practical.
About 3:1 superresolution is possible iff you have a very good understanding of the imaging optics psf and extremely good signal to noise. You can do slightly better for the position of very bright spikes on a dark background at infinity due to astronomical research. The general case with coloured objects not at infinity and finite depth of field is always more difficult in practice. Car numberplates can sometimes be done a bit better than the general rule of thumb.
> Refer to what was done with the MARS pictures.
Which Mars pictures do you have in mind? State of the Art before and after images for the defective Hubble telescope original optics are still about as good as it gets. You can't avoid the problem that high frequency noise is ultimately a killer. There are just too many noisy images that will blur to give exactly the same image that you recorded. You just have to pick the right one! -- Regards, Martin Brown