And maybe you think software is difficult. It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. The parts: http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, carry point, card won't drop out that way: http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG Turn around for flashlight... Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. All together now. http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG And it fits. Was thinking all the time: "Makerbot get one", anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, no way could I move that module more forward.. That display will need some bezel or something.
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Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:>And maybe you think software is difficult. >It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >The parts: > http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG > Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... > HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. > >Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: > http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG > >Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >carry point, card won't drop out that way: > http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG > Turn around for flashlight... > Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, > this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. > Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. > >All together now. > http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG > >And it fits. >Was thinking all the time: > "Makerbot get one", > anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? > >The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. > >The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >no way could I move that module more forward.. >That display will need some bezel or something.It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating structures. May as well do colors and labels too. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> >wrote: > >>And maybe you think software is difficult. >>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >>The parts: >> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >> >>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >> >>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >> Turn around for flashlight... >> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, >> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >> >>All together now. >> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >> >>And it fits. >>Was thinking all the time: >> "Makerbot get one", >> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >> >>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. >> >>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >>no way could I move that module more forward.. >>That display will need some bezel or something. > >It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint >conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating >structures. May as well do colors and labels too.Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened already.
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin ><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> >>wrote: >> >>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >>>The parts: >>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >>> >>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >>> >>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >>> Turn around for flashlight... >>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, >>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >>> >>>All together now. >>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >>> >>>And it fits. >>>Was thinking all the time: >>> "Makerbot get one", >>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >>> >>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. >>> >>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >>>That display will need some bezel or something. >> >>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint >>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating >>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. > >Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >already.That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all the noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:10 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin >><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >>>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >>>>The parts: >>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >>>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >>>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >>>> >>>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >>>> >>>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >>>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >>>> Turn around for flashlight... >>>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, >>>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >>>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >>>> >>>>All together now. >>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >>>> >>>>And it fits. >>>>Was thinking all the time: >>>> "Makerbot get one", >>>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >>>> >>>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >>>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. >>>> >>>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >>>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >>>>That display will need some bezel or something. >>> >>>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint >>>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating >>>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. >> >>Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >>PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >>already. > >That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all the >noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in >action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-)In college, we had a lathe sort of thing that cut circuit boards from a 1:1 master (paper and tape). At both my PPoE and CPoE, they have the milling type machines. Neither has been used in the time I've been there. I just use the one at the CPoE as a source of copper clad.
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:43:41 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:10 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin >>><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >>>>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >>>>>The parts: >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >>>>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >>>>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >>>>> >>>>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >>>>> >>>>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >>>>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >>>>> Turn around for flashlight... >>>>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, >>>>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >>>>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >>>>> >>>>>All together now. >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >>>>> >>>>>And it fits. >>>>>Was thinking all the time: >>>>> "Makerbot get one", >>>>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >>>>> >>>>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >>>>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. >>>>> >>>>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >>>>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >>>>>That display will need some bezel or something. >>>> >>>>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint >>>>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating >>>>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. >>> >>>Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >>>PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >>>already. >> >>That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all the >>noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in >>action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-) > >In college, we had a lathe sort of thing that cut circuit boards from >a 1:1 master (paper and tape). At both my PPoE and CPoE, they have >the milling type machines. Neither has been used in the time I've >been there. I just use the one at the CPoE as a source of copper >clad.We had one of those PCB milling things for a while. Got rid of it. Our Tormach does a decent job on FR4, but it's still too much hassle. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Gear/Tor1.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Tormax_Coilcraft.JPG For a quick proto, do it by hand, x-acto on FR4. Anything more complex, buy a proper plated-through board. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:58:12 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:43:41 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:10 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin >>>><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >>>>>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >>>>>>The parts: >>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >>>>>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >>>>>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >>>>>> >>>>>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >>>>>> >>>>>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >>>>>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >>>>>> Turn around for flashlight... >>>>>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, >>>>>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >>>>>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >>>>>> >>>>>>All together now. >>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >>>>>> >>>>>>And it fits. >>>>>>Was thinking all the time: >>>>>> "Makerbot get one", >>>>>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >>>>>> >>>>>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >>>>>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. >>>>>> >>>>>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >>>>>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >>>>>>That display will need some bezel or something. >>>>> >>>>>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint >>>>>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating >>>>>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. >>>> >>>>Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >>>>PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >>>>already. >>> >>>That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all the >>>noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in >>>action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-) >> >>In college, we had a lathe sort of thing that cut circuit boards from >>a 1:1 master (paper and tape). At both my PPoE and CPoE, they have >>the milling type machines. Neither has been used in the time I've >>been there. I just use the one at the CPoE as a source of copper >>clad. > >We had one of those PCB milling things for a while. Got rid of it. > >Our Tormach does a decent job on FR4, but it's still too much hassle. > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Gear/Tor1.JPGHoly crap! That's some beast!>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Tormax_Coilcraft.JPG > >For a quick proto, do it by hand, x-acto on FR4. Anything more complex, buy a >proper plated-through board.Sure. I do it all the time. The retractable knives from Techni-Tool work really well, *much* better than anything from X-Acto that I've tried. http://www.techni-tool.com/758IE5095 The matching scribe works well, too.
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:39:26 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote:>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:58:12 -0800, John Larkin ><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:43:41 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:10 -0700, Jim Thompson >>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin >>>>><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >>>>>>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >>>>>>>The parts: >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >>>>>>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >>>>>>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front end, on the left, >>>>>>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >>>>>>> Turn around for flashlight... >>>>>>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks ), as it still needs a round hole made, >>>>>>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >>>>>>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>All together now. >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And it fits. >>>>>>>Was thinking all the time: >>>>>>> "Makerbot get one", >>>>>>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those to be, took a while to make it all fit. >>>>>>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast lock in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the flashlight switch was, >>>>>>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >>>>>>>That display will need some bezel or something. >>>>>> >>>>>>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and paint >>>>>>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulating >>>>>>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. >>>>> >>>>>Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >>>>>PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >>>>>already. >>>> >>>>That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all the >>>>noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in >>>>action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-) >>> >>>In college, we had a lathe sort of thing that cut circuit boards from >>>a 1:1 master (paper and tape). At both my PPoE and CPoE, they have >>>the milling type machines. Neither has been used in the time I've >>>been there. I just use the one at the CPoE as a source of copper >>>clad. >> >>We had one of those PCB milling things for a while. Got rid of it. >> >>Our Tormach does a decent job on FR4, but it's still too much hassle. >> >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Gear/Tor1.JPG > >Holy crap! That's some beast!It's great.> >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Tormax_Coilcraft.JPG >> >>For a quick proto, do it by hand, x-acto on FR4. Anything more complex, buy a >>proper plated-through board. > >Sure. I do it all the time. The retractable knives from Techni-Tool >work really well, *much* better than anything from X-Acto that I've >tried. >http://www.techni-tool.com/758IE5095 > >The matching scribe works well, too.Really cool is a Dremel loaded with a carbide dentist's burr. They are cheap on ebay. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Burr_1.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Burr_2.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Cclad_Dremel.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/DCBB_2.JPG -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation
Reply by ●February 22, 20142014-02-22
Den l=F8rdag den 22. februar 2014 22.58.12 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:43:41 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > >On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:10 -0700, Jim Thompson >=20 > ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >=20 > > >=20 > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >=20 > >> >=20 > >>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin >=20 > >>><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yaho=o.com>>=20 > >>>>wrote: >=20 > >>>> >=20 > >>>>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >=20 > >>>>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box. >=20 > >>>>>The parts: >=20 > >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >=20 > >>>>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >=20 > >>>>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >=20 > >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the front =end, on the left,>=20 > >>>>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >=20 > >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >=20 > >>>>> Turn around for flashlight... >=20 > >>>>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and ticks=), as it still needs a round hole made,>=20 > >>>>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >=20 > >>>>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>All together now. >=20 > >>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>And it fits. >=20 > >>>>>Was thinking all the time: >=20 > >>>>> "Makerbot get one", >=20 > >>>>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like those=to be, took a while to make it all fit.>=20 > >>>>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast loc=k in.>=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where the =flashlight switch was,>=20 > >>>>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >=20 > >>>>>That display will need some bezel or something. >=20 > >>>> >=20 > >>>>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure and=paint>=20 > >>>>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulatin=g>=20 > >>>>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>>Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >=20 > >>>PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >=20 > >>>already. >=20 > >> >=20 > >>That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all the >=20 > >>noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in >=20 > >>action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-) >=20 > > >=20 > >In college, we had a lathe sort of thing that cut circuit boards from >=20 > >a 1:1 master (paper and tape). At both my PPoE and CPoE, they have >=20 > >the milling type machines. Neither has been used in the time I've >=20 > >been there. I just use the one at the CPoE as a source of copper >=20 > >clad. >=20 >=20 >=20 > We had one of those PCB milling things for a while. Got rid of it. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Our Tormach does a decent job on FR4, but it's still too much hassle. >=20 >=20 >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Gear/Tor1.JPG >=20 >=20 >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Tormax_Coilcraft.JPG >=20 >=20 >=20 > For a quick proto, do it by hand, x-acto on FR4. Anything more complex, b=uy a>=20 > proper plated-through board. >=20=20 I build a pcb milling machine from various ebay find and it works quite wel= l and in eagle it is a single script to do gcode for outlines but for anything serious you might as well go all the way, make a proper sc= hematic, layout and get a pcb made, even four layer prototype are crazy=20 cheap now =20 you can now get a machine that does PCBs with laser:=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn29LrMF8LC4 =20 I've heard the price is $140,000 plus shipping, that is a lot of PCBs -Lasse=20
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Den s=F8ndag den 23. februar 2014 00.03.48 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:39:26 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > >On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:58:12 -0800, John Larkin >=20 > ><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >=20 > > >=20 > >>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:43:41 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >=20 > >> >=20 > >>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:31:10 -0700, Jim Thompson >=20 > >>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:03:17 -0500, krw@attt.bizz wrote: >=20 > >>>> >=20 > >>>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:00:39 -0800, John Larkin >=20 > >>>>><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:30:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@ya=hoo.com>>=20 > >>>>>>wrote: >=20 > >>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>And maybe you think software is difficult. >=20 > >>>>>>>It was also difficult ot fit this all in this solar flashlight box=.>=20 > >>>>>>>The parts: >=20 > >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_1_IMG_4342.JPG >=20 > >>>>>>> Battery, GPS, SDcard, OLED, GMtube, Speaker, Flashlight LEDs... >=20 > >>>>>>> HV transformer is on backside 'PCB'. >=20 > >>>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>Better view of HV transformer, things coming together: >=20 > >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_2_IMG_4344.JPG >=20 > >>>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>Will need to make a slot for SDcard at front, yes that is the fron=t end, on the left,>=20 > >>>>>>>carry point, card won't drop out that way: >=20 > >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_3_IMG_4346.JPG >=20 > >>>>>>> Turn around for flashlight... >=20 > >>>>>>> Left out the on/off switch / volume control (for beeps and tic=ks ), as it still needs a round hole made,>=20 > >>>>>>> this was just a 'does it fit' exercise. >=20 > >>>>>>> Same for headphone connector and GPS on/off switch. >=20 > >>>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>All together now. >=20 > >>>>>>> http://panteltje.com/pub/1_2_3_part_4_IMG_4351.JPG >=20 > >>>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>And it fits. >=20 > >>>>>>>Was thinking all the time: >=20 > >>>>>>> "Makerbot get one", >=20 > >>>>>>> anybody experience with those, making small enclosures? >=20 > >>>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>The parts (transformer for example) are NOT where I would like tho=se to be, took a while to make it all fit.>=20 > >>>>>>>The GPS module works great under the solar call, dunno why, fast l=ock in.>=20 > >>>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>>The hole for the OLED display has a round cutout, that is where th=e flashlight switch was,>=20 > >>>>>>>no way could I move that module more forward.. >=20 > >>>>>>>That display will need some bezel or something. >=20 > >>>>>> >=20 > >>>>>>It would be cool to have a 3D printer that would fab an enclosure a=nd paint>=20 > >>>>>>conductive traces, anywhere on surfaces or even internal to insulat=ing>=20 > >>>>>>structures. May as well do colors and labels too. >=20 > >>>>> >=20 > >>>>>Right. Once you can print the substrate and the traces, multi-layer >=20 > >>>>>PCBs are a very short step. I'm really surprised it hasn't happened >=20 > >>>>>already. >=20 > >>>> >=20 > >>>>That would be really cool... nearly instant prototypes without all th=e>=20 > >>>>noise of one of those milling-machine types. The last one I saw in >=20 > >>>>action was housed in an old teletype enclosure ;-) >=20 > >>> >=20 > >>>In college, we had a lathe sort of thing that cut circuit boards from >=20 > >>>a 1:1 master (paper and tape). At both my PPoE and CPoE, they have >=20 > >>>the milling type machines. Neither has been used in the time I've >=20 > >>>been there. I just use the one at the CPoE as a source of copper >=20 > >>>clad. >=20 > >> >=20 > >>We had one of those PCB milling things for a while. Got rid of it. >=20 > >> >=20 > >>Our Tormach does a decent job on FR4, but it's still too much hassle. >=20 > >> >=20 > >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Gear/Tor1.JPG >=20 > > >=20 > >Holy crap! That's some beast! >=20 >=20 >=20 > It's great.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > >=20 > >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Tormax_Coilcraft.JP=G>=20 > >> >=20 > >>For a quick proto, do it by hand, x-acto on FR4. Anything more complex,=buy a>=20 > >>proper plated-through board. >=20 > > >=20 > >Sure. I do it all the time. The retractable knives from Techni-Tool >=20 > >work really well, *much* better than anything from X-Acto that I've >=20 > >tried. =20 >=20 > >http://www.techni-tool.com/758IE5095 >=20 > > >=20 > >The matching scribe works well, too. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Really cool is a Dremel loaded with a carbide dentist's burr. They are ch=eap on>=20 > ebay. >=20 >=20 >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Burr_1.JPG >=20 >=20 >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Burr_2.JPG >=20 >=20 >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/Cclad_Dremel.JPG >=20 >=20 >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Protos/DCBB_2.JPG >=20for the mill try these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191001746241 -Lasse
