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Started by George Herold March 7, 2013
Hi guys,  I need a little digital pulse stretcher.  I've got pulses
that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all
be at least 10ns.   I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters.  I was
thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to
ground.  Any other ways?  There might be an extra AND gate too.
(not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.)

Thanks

George H.
(and who ordered the second t in stretcher)
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:21:33 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

>Hi guys, I need a little digital pulse stretcher. I've got pulses >that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all >be at least 10ns. I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. I was >thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to >ground. Any other ways? There might be an extra AND gate too. >(not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) > >Thanks > >George H. >(and who ordered the second t in stretcher)
Isn't 10ns width just a wee-bit tight for 74HC parts? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
George Herold wrote:
> Hi guys, I need a little digital pulse stretcher. I've got pulses > that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all > be at least 10ns. I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. I was > thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to > ground. Any other ways? There might be an extra AND gate too. > (not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) >
The diode thing is what I usually do. But 10nsec through a 74HC14? Now that's a strrrrretch. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
On Mar 7, 1:33=A0pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
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> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:21:33 -0800 (PST), George Herold > > <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote: > >Hi guys, =A0I need a little digital pulse stretcher. =A0I've got pulses > >that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all > >be at least 10ns. =A0 I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. =A0I was > >thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to > >ground. =A0Any other ways? =A0There might be an extra AND gate too. > >(not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) > > >Thanks > > >George H. > >(and who ordered the second t in stretcher) > > Isn't 10ns width just a wee-bit tight for 74HC parts? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
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OK, maybe I should stretch to 20 ns. George H.
On Mar 7, 1:34=A0pm, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> George Herold wrote: > > Hi guys, =A0I need a little digital pulse stretcher. =A0I've got pulses > > that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all > > be at least 10ns. =A0 I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. =A0I was > > thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to > > ground. =A0Any other ways? =A0There might be an extra AND gate too. > > (not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) > > The diode thing is what I usually do. But 10nsec through a 74HC14? Now > that's a strrrrretch. > > -- > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.com/
OK thanks, I'll do 20ns then. George H.
George Herold wrote:
> On Mar 7, 1:34 pm, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> George Herold wrote: >>> Hi guys, I need a little digital pulse stretcher. I've got pulses >>> that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all >>> be at least 10ns. I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. I was >>> thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to >>> ground. Any other ways? There might be an extra AND gate too. >>> (not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) >> The diode thing is what I usually do. But 10nsec through a 74HC14? Now >> that's a strrrrretch. >> >> -- >> Regards, Joerg >> >> http://www.analogconsultants.com/ > > OK thanks, I'll do 20ns then. >
Still a bit of a stretch but if you need pulses this short there are faster versions of the HC14. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:21:33 -0800 (PST), George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com>
wrote:

>Hi guys, I need a little digital pulse stretcher. I've got pulses >that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all >be at least 10ns. I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. I was >thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to >ground. Any other ways? There might be an extra AND gate too. >(not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) > >Thanks > >George H. >(and who ordered the second t in stretcher)
Why not use a one-shot? HC123 or the faster Tiny version of same, SN74LVC1G123. The other way is to set a D-flop that resets itself. That can be a lot faster. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:01:25 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

>On Mar 7, 1:33&#4294967295;pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My- >Web-Site.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:21:33 -0800 (PST), George Herold >> >> <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote: >> >Hi guys, &#4294967295;I need a little digital pulse stretcher. &#4294967295;I've got pulses >> >that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all >> >be at least 10ns. &#4294967295; I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. &#4294967295;I was >> >thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to >> >ground. &#4294967295;Any other ways? &#4294967295;There might be an extra AND gate too. >> >(not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) >> >> >Thanks >> >> >George H. >> >(and who ordered the second t in stretcher) >> >> Isn't 10ns width just a wee-bit tight for 74HC parts? >> >> &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; ...Jim Thompson >> -- >> | James E.Thompson &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | &#4294967295; &#4294967295;mens &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | >> | Analog Innovations &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | &#4294967295; &#4294967295; et &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295;| >> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems &#4294967295;| &#4294967295; &#4294967295;manus &#4294967295; &#4294967295;| >> | Phoenix, Arizona &#4294967295;85048 &#4294967295; &#4294967295;Skype: Contacts Only &#4294967295;| &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | >> | Voice:(480)460-2350 &#4294967295;Fax: Available upon request | &#4294967295;Brass Rat &#4294967295;| >> | E-mail Icon athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| &#4294967295; &#4294967295;1962 &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | >> >> I love to cook with wine. &#4294967295; &#4294967295; Sometimes I even put it in the food. > >OK, maybe I should stretch to 20 ns. > >George H.
...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:01:25 -0800 (PST), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

>On Mar 7, 1:33&#4294967295;pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My- >Web-Site.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:21:33 -0800 (PST), George Herold >> >> <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote: >> >Hi guys, &#4294967295;I need a little digital pulse stretcher. &#4294967295;I've got pulses >> >that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all >> >be at least 10ns. &#4294967295; I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. &#4294967295;I was >> >thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to >> >ground. &#4294967295;Any other ways? &#4294967295;There might be an extra AND gate too. >> >(not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) >> >> >Thanks >> >> >George H. >> >(and who ordered the second t in stretcher) >> >> Isn't 10ns width just a wee-bit tight for 74HC parts? >> >> &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; ...Jim Thompson >> -- >> | James E.Thompson &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | &#4294967295; &#4294967295;mens &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | >> | Analog Innovations &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | &#4294967295; &#4294967295; et &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295;| >> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems &#4294967295;| &#4294967295; &#4294967295;manus &#4294967295; &#4294967295;| >> | Phoenix, Arizona &#4294967295;85048 &#4294967295; &#4294967295;Skype: Contacts Only &#4294967295;| &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | >> | Voice:(480)460-2350 &#4294967295;Fax: Available upon request | &#4294967295;Brass Rat &#4294967295;| >> | E-mail Icon athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| &#4294967295; &#4294967295;1962 &#4294967295; &#4294967295; | >> >> I love to cook with wine. &#4294967295; &#4294967295; Sometimes I even put it in the food. > >OK, maybe I should stretch to 20 ns. > >George H.
What I was driving at was how can the 74HC do the stretch in the first place... reliably. Though I think I possibly see a way. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
On 3/7/2013 12:21 PM, George Herold wrote:
> Hi guys, I need a little digital pulse stretcher. I've got pulses > that are 5ns to 25ns in width, and I'd like to bump them all up to all > be at least 10ns. I've got a few spare 74HC14 inverters. I was > thinking of just feeding one through a diode followed by an R/C to > ground. Any other ways? There might be an extra AND gate too. > (not my circuit so I'm not quite sure.) > > Thanks > > George H. > (and who ordered the second t in stretcher) >
Something like this: http://www.abvolt.com/misc/pulse_stretch.jpg You got the idea. /* Placeholder for banal comments */ Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Designs www.abvolt.com