On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> wrote:>> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays.> Still around.....and better than ever! http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, making "preferences" less accessible to the user. Firefox's most popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for Seamonkey. At the very least, get NoScript. Specially if running M$ Windows. nb -- vi --the heart of evil!
Oscilloscope donation for a beginner - request
Started by ●July 14, 2012
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
On 15/07/12 02:48, Fenclu wrote:> Hi > > I'm probably not the first one to ask for a free oscilloscope. I'm from Poland and here oscilloscopes are rare and expensive. I'm keen to learn electronics and I just can't continue without an oscilloscope in my lab. I obviously can't afford one. > > So, to all engineers out there : if someone has an oscilloscope leftover and would like to donate it I would gladly accept it. I can pay for the shipping, which is still going to be very expensive but it's still much cheaper than an oscilloscope. I think I can only accept an oscilloscope from someone from Europe, escpecially from Poland or from a nearby coutry, because it would cost over 150USD to ship it from USA to Poland. I guess I could accept one out of Europe if the postage is under 50 bucks but I doubt it would be that cheap. > > It would be best if the scope was over 20MHz bandwidth. > > Best regards > Jakub (fenclu)You might want to find out what your government does with surplus equipment. Surely there is an appointed company that sells the stuff. The german equivalent is the VEBEG. https://www.vebeg.de/web/en/verkauf/browse.htm A the moment they have no interesting measurement equipment but it might be worthwhile to take a look once a week. I've seen 50MHz Philips scopes, signal generatatiors etc. Anyone can bid. In most cases there is no minimum bid. Good luck! Werner Dahn
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
notbob wrote:> > On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> wrote: > > >> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. > >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays. > > > Still around. > > ....and better than ever! > > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, > making "preferences" less accessible to the user. Firefox's most > popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for > Seamonkey. At the very least, get NoScript. Specially if running > M$ Windows.The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. The older Netscape browsers did a better job in their email/news client.
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
On 2012-07-15, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:> The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. The older Netscape browsers > did a better job in their email/news client.Yeah, not a fan of the news/mail part of Seamonkey. slrn is a command line news client, so don't see how SM works as a newsreader. I use the email part cuz I often get inline graphics from friends. It's good enough. The browser proper is great, though. Provides more user control than FF. nb -- vi --the heart of evil!
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
On Jul 15, 9:22=A0am, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:> The cheapest option by far for a beginner these days is a software based > scope for a PC that uses the soundcard as a dual channel ADC. > > Daquarta isn't perfect in that respect as it does cost something to use > and lacks proper X-Y options but does have realtime spectrum analysis. > ISTR 30 day free trial. It is fine for audio signals. > > The other one whose name escapes me for the moment is freeware and can > do x-y as well as x-t plots. Performance is obviously limited to audio > band only and not DC coupled but it is a lot better than nothing. > > And the price of either is hard to bear. > > -- > Regards, > Martin BrownOr for a bit more bandwidth you can try http://www.dosprinter.net/lptscope/ . Dan
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
On Jul 15, 10:03=A0am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:> notbob wrote: > > > On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote: > > > >> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. > > >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays. > > > > Still around. > > > ....and better than ever! > > >http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > > Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, > > making "preferences" less accessible to the user. =A0Firefox's most > > popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for > > Seamonkey. =A0At the very least, get NoScript. =A0Specially if running > > M$ Windows. > > =A0 The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. =A0The older Netscape brows=ers> did a better job in their email/news client.Sorry to hear that. For a while, at least, Seamonkey's newsreader was a good successor to the one in Netscape Communicator.
Reply by ●July 15, 20122012-07-15
spamtrap1888 wrote:> > On Jul 15, 10:03 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > notbob wrote: > > > > > On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. > > > >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays. > > > > > > Still around. > > > > > ....and better than ever! > > > > >http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > > > > Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, > > > making "preferences" less accessible to the user. Firefox's most > > > popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for > > > Seamonkey. At the very least, get NoScript. Specially if running > > > M$ Windows. > > > > The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. The older Netscape browsers > > did a better job in their email/news client. > > Sorry to hear that. For a while, at least, Seamonkey's newsreader was > a good successor to the one in Netscape Communicator.You have to use different menus to sort by sender, date, status and such. Makes it worthless to me. I'd like to get the source code for Netscape 4.80 and recompile it for newer OS.
Reply by ●July 16, 20122012-07-16
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:> > spamtrap1888 wrote: > > > > On Jul 15, 10:03 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: > > > notbob wrote: > > > > > > > On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. > > > > >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays. > > > > > > > > Still around. > > > > > > > ....and better than ever! > > > > > > >http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > > > > > > Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, > > > > making "preferences" less accessible to the user. Firefox's most > > > > popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for > > > > Seamonkey. At the very least, get NoScript. Specially if running > > > > M$ Windows. > > > > > > The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. The older Netscape browsers > > > did a better job in their email/news client. > > > > Sorry to hear that. For a while, at least, Seamonkey's newsreader was > > a good successor to the one in Netscape Communicator. > > You have to use different menus to sort by sender, date, status and > such. Makes it worthless to me. I'd like to get the source code for > Netscape 4.80 and recompile it for newer OS.I'm posting with NS 4.79 on Win7 32bit, and it works fine. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
Reply by ●July 16, 20122012-07-16
Phil Hobbs wrote:> > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > > > > spamtrap1888 wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 15, 10:03 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> > > > wrote: > > > > notbob wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. > > > > > >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays. > > > > > > > > > > Still around. > > > > > > > > > ....and better than ever! > > > > > > > > >http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > > > > > > > > Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, > > > > > making "preferences" less accessible to the user. Firefox's most > > > > > popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for > > > > > Seamonkey. At the very least, get NoScript. Specially if running > > > > > M$ Windows. > > > > > > > > The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. The older Netscape browsers > > > > did a better job in their email/news client. > > > > > > Sorry to hear that. For a while, at least, Seamonkey's newsreader was > > > a good successor to the one in Netscape Communicator. > > > > You have to use different menus to sort by sender, date, status and > > such. Makes it worthless to me. I'd like to get the source code for > > Netscape 4.80 and recompile it for newer OS. > > I'm posting with NS 4.79 on Win7 32bit, and it works fine.I was thinking about the 64 bit version, which refuses to install the 32 bit versions without running it in a VM. I'd also like to add new features to the filtering, like dropping crossposted messages from unwanted groups.
Reply by ●July 16, 20122012-07-16
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:> > Phil Hobbs wrote: > > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > > > > > > spamtrap1888 wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 10:03 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > notbob wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 2012-07-15, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I used to use Mozilla SeaMonkey -- email/news/browser all in one. > > > > > > >> Don't know what shape it's in nowadays. > > > > > > > > > > > > Still around. > > > > > > > > > > > ....and better than ever! > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > Actually superior to Firefox, which has dumbed down its interface, > > > > > > making "preferences" less accessible to the user. Firefox's most > > > > > > popular plug-ins and add-ons --though not all-- are also available for > > > > > > Seamonkey. At the very least, get NoScript. Specially if running > > > > > > M$ Windows. > > > > > > > > > > The message threading in Seamonkey sucks. The older Netscape browsers > > > > > did a better job in their email/news client. > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear that. For a while, at least, Seamonkey's newsreader was > > > > a good successor to the one in Netscape Communicator. > > > > > > You have to use different menus to sort by sender, date, status and > > > such. Makes it worthless to me. I'd like to get the source code for > > > Netscape 4.80 and recompile it for newer OS. > > > > I'm posting with NS 4.79 on Win7 32bit, and it works fine. > > I was thinking about the 64 bit version, which refuses to install the > 32 bit versions without running it in a VM. > > I'd also like to add new features to the filtering, like dropping > crossposted messages from unwanted groups.Will it run on 64b outside a VM? You could install it in a VM to some convenient directoy, zip it up, and copy it outside the VM's disk image. (I have Win7 64b running under QEMU/KVM, so I could try it myself.) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
