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Dr Howard Johnson, this weeks guest on The Amp Hour

Started by David L. Jones January 10, 2012
Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on
our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black
Magic" fame:
http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-waveform-wizardry/

Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet
development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of
other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours.

Dave.
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:47:01 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

>Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on >our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black >Magic" fame: >http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-waveform-wizardry/ > >Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet >development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of >other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours. > >Dave.
That Dr. Howard looks awfly familiar ! He also lives awfly close to us here in the PNW... Also saw a link that shows your new videos. Thx David ! boB
On Jan 10, 7:47=A0am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on > our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black > Magic" fame:http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-=
waveform...
> > Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet > development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of > other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours.
"Black Magic" is more notorious than famous. I own both it and it's follow-up, and both have got some useful content but they are badly organised and what useful content they do contain is hard to find. The field is still waiting for a decent textbook on high speed circuit design and layout. This is one of the few matters on which John Larkin and I seem to agree. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:28:22 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Jan 10, 7:47&#2013266080;am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on >> our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black >> Magic" fame:http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-waveform... >> >> Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet >> development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of >> other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours. > >"Black Magic" is more notorious than famous. I own both it and it's >follow-up, and both have got some useful content but they are badly >organised and what useful content they do contain is hard to find. > >The field is still waiting for a decent textbook on high speed circuit >design and layout. > >This is one of the few matters on which John Larkin and I seem to >agree.
Yeah, his book is half nonsense. If you can tell which half is which, you don't need the book. His ideas on "return currents" and bypassing are absurd. And the writing is dreadful. His articles in EDN (or ED, whatever) are horrible too. He ran out of material years ago, but he keeps writing. I started highlighting the really bad, flat silly parts of "Black Magic" but gave up less then halfway through. John
On Jan 10, 2:28=A0am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 7:47=A0am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on > > our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black > > Magic" fame:http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsom=
e-waveform...
> > > Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet > > development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of > > other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours. > > "Black Magic" is more notorious than famous. I own both it and it's > follow-up, and both have got some useful content but they are badly > organised and what useful content they do contain is hard to find. > > The field is still waiting for a decent textbook on high speed circuit > design and layout. > > This is one of the few matters on which John Larkin and I seem to > agree. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Perhaps, it is time for the first ever 'conference' book written by a consortium of engineers/scientists. Put my name in for proffreading. :)
Robert Macy <robert.a.macy@gmail.com> writes:

> On Jan 10, 2:28&nbsp;am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: >> On Jan 10, 7:47&nbsp;am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on >> > our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black >> > Magic" fame:http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-waveform... >> >> > Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet >> > development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of >> > other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours. >> >> "Black Magic" is more notorious than famous. I own both it and it's >> follow-up, and both have got some useful content but they are badly >> organised and what useful content they do contain is hard to find. >> >> The field is still waiting for a decent textbook on high speed circuit >> design and layout. >> >> This is one of the few matters on which John Larkin and I seem to >> agree. >> >> -- >> Bill Sloman, Nijmegen > > Perhaps, it is time for the first ever 'conference' book written by a > consortium of engineers/scientists. > > Put my name in for proffreading. :)
Great idea. Perhaps John Larkin, Jim Thompson and Bill Sloman could collaborate on it. Sure that will work out well... :) -- John Devereux
> Put my name in for proffreading. =A0:)- <<<<< Now *THIS* I like
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:55:53 +0000, John Devereux
<john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:

>Robert Macy <robert.a.macy@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Jan 10, 2:28&#2013266080;am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: >>> On Jan 10, 7:47&#2013266080;am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on >>> > our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black >>> > Magic" fame:http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-waveform... >>> >>> > Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet >>> > development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of >>> > other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours. >>> >>> "Black Magic" is more notorious than famous. I own both it and it's >>> follow-up, and both have got some useful content but they are badly >>> organised and what useful content they do contain is hard to find. >>> >>> The field is still waiting for a decent textbook on high speed circuit >>> design and layout. >>> >>> This is one of the few matters on which John Larkin and I seem to >>> agree. >>> >>> -- >>> Bill Sloman, Nijmegen >> >> Perhaps, it is time for the first ever 'conference' book written by a >> consortium of engineers/scientists. >> >> Put my name in for proffreading. :) > >Great idea. Perhaps John Larkin, Jim Thompson and Bill Sloman could >collaborate on it. > >Sure that will work out well... :)
Yep. I'm the only one that's armed ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:23:01 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
<robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 10, 2:28&#2013266080;am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: >> On Jan 10, 7:47&#2013266080;am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on >> > our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black >> > Magic" fame:http://www.theamphour.com/2012/01/10/the-amp-hour-77-winsome-waveform... >> >> > Lots of history of the book, signal integrity, Gigabit Ethernet >> > development, 90 degree PCB bends, audiophoolery, and a whole bunch of >> > other talk over almost 1 1/12 hours. >> >> "Black Magic" is more notorious than famous. I own both it and it's >> follow-up, and both have got some useful content but they are badly >> organised and what useful content they do contain is hard to find. >> >> The field is still waiting for a decent textbook on high speed circuit >> design and layout. >> >> This is one of the few matters on which John Larkin and I seem to >> agree. >> >> -- >> Bill Sloman, Nijmegen > >Perhaps, it is time for the first ever 'conference' book written by a >consortium of engineers/scientists. > >Put my name in for proffreading. :)
Jim Williams' two great books on analog design were like that, each chapter by someone else. Pease tried to imitate that, but didn't do it very well. John
John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:28:22 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman > <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: > >> On Jan 10, 7:47 am, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Just thought some might be interested in hearing our recent guest on >>> our Amp Hour radio show, Dr Howard Johnson of "Handbook of Black >>> Magic" fame[...] > > Yeah, his book is half nonsense. If you can tell which half is which, > you don't need the book. His ideas on "return currents" and bypassing > are absurd. And the writing is dreadful.
I haven't got the book handy, but I'll pick it up tomorrow or so. Do you mind expounding on why his "return currents" make no sense? Did he mean something different from image currents? Jeroen Belleman