Antenna impedance

Started by November 3, 2013
```"riccardo manfrin" = Goggle Groups fuckwit
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>

** No fooling ??

> but I just can't figure out the purpose?

** How surprising...........

> I thought that the inductor was there to match the antenna load.

** It might be there match your stupid ass.

** Fuck knows that this retard thinks "match " actually means

Least of all him.

> I mean, is it just another name for impedance matching?

** Not exactly, actually

>  Or does it serve different purposes?

** Hmmm, is there a tiny flicker of insight ..........

It might just dawn on this fucking idiot that "match" has
more than its literal meaning.

Like in the old joke:

" Got a match  ? "

" Yeah  -  your face and my ass. "

...  Phil

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```On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 01:01:49 -0800 (PST), riccardo manfrin
<riccardomanfrin@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been reading about the loading coil, but I just can't figure out the purpose? I thought that the inductor was there to match the antenna load. Has the "loading coil" this purpose? I mean, is it just another name for impedance matching? Or does it serve different purposes?

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for a nice explanation.

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> Radiotron Designer's Handbook, Chapter 22, Section iii gives:

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```> Read "Resonant Antennas" at:
> for a nice explanation.

It is interesting, but I'm looking for a (possibly simple) mathematical formulation that

- applies to a generic dipole of arbitrary length (not lambda /2 or lambda/4, and in general way smaller than the wavelength),
- does not take in integrals nor starts from Maxwell's equations
- possibly takes in  all conventional approximations/simplifications for far field, isotropic, linear, homogeneous, non-dispersive medium,
- binds the antenna complex impedance to the length and lambda

The closest to this was Fred's answer but the source is not exactly an "handbook".

I'm now starting from scratch to understand the current and voltages distribution across the dipole to understand how the ratio between them is defined and therefore the impedance.

R
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```"riccardo manfrin"
>
> I'm now starting from scratch to understand the current
> and voltages distribution across the dipole to understand
>  how the ratio between them is defined and therefore
> the impedance.
>

** You are so far off the basic issue.

An antenna radiates RF energy in proportion to the VOLTAGE on its driven
elements.

A series inductor operating at resonance with some capacitance *magnifies*
the voltage appearing at the output of the driving amplifier.

Soooo  -   it boosts the energy radiation if the antenna is capacitive.

Which all short antennas are  !!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck equal value impedance matching nonsense.

...  Phil

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```On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 21:17:30 +1100, "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"riccardo manfrin"
>>
>> I'm now starting from scratch to understand the current
>> and voltages distribution across the dipole to understand
>>  how the ratio between them is defined and therefore
>> the impedance.
>>
>
>** You are so far off the basic issue.
>
>An antenna radiates RF energy in proportion to the VOLTAGE on its driven
>elements.
>
>A series inductor operating at resonance with some capacitance *magnifies*
>the voltage appearing at the output of the driving amplifier.
>
>Soooo  -   it boosts the energy radiation if the antenna is capacitive.
>
>Which all short antennas are  !!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Fuck equal value impedance matching nonsense.
>
>
I always thougt it is the moving electron which radiates.
When you charge a metal object to a million volts,

w.
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```On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:44:50 +0100, Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- ---
-.dotat> wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 21:17:30 +1100, "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"riccardo manfrin"
>>>
>>> I'm now starting from scratch to understand the current
>>> and voltages distribution across the dipole to understand
>>>  how the ratio between them is defined and therefore
>>> the impedance.
>>>
>>
>>** You are so far off the basic issue.
>>
>>An antenna radiates RF energy in proportion to the VOLTAGE on its driven
>>elements.
>>
>>A series inductor operating at resonance with some capacitance *magnifies*
>>the voltage appearing at the output of the driving amplifier.
>>
>>Soooo  -   it boosts the energy radiation if the antenna is capacitive.
>>
>>Which all short antennas are  !!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Fuck equal value impedance matching nonsense.
>>
>>
>I always thougt it is the moving electron which radiates.
>When you charge a metal object to a million volts,

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Only while it's charging/discharging.

JF
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```"Helmut Wabnig"

** Fuck off retard.

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```On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 07:02:44 +1100, "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"Helmut Wabnig"
>
>** Fuck off retard.
>
>

w.

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```On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:05:32 -0800, riccardo manfrin wrote:

> The closest to this was Fred's answer but the source is not exactly an
> "handbook".

Depends how big your hands are...

My hardback copy is only about 2.5 inches thick ;-)

--
"Design is the reverse of analysis"
(R.D. Middlebrook)
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