On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:11:09 AM UTC-4, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 5/27/23 16:39, micky wrote: 
> 
> [snip]
> > If you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in 
> > the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second 
> > amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running 
> > constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?
> I find it useful to have a small TV I can move around to check things. 
> That could quickly locate your problem. 

Or it might not find it at all.  With the symptoms being described, one set may be more sensitive than another if it is a signal problem.  

How much does a small TV cost these days?  They have to be pretty cheap.  

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On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:41:40 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
> All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but 
> now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the 
> next one. 
> 
> One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the 
> sound is fine. 
> 
> The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound. Words are intelligible 
> but sort of staticy or distorted. Sometimes it's worse than others. 
...
> If you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in 
> the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second 
> amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running 
> constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?

If the kitchen TV is digital, it can't have distorted sound due to the RF,
unless there's bad video as well.   If the item is 39 years old, it is analog
and RF connection to 'central location' is certainly a suspect.   If you have a
second TV and a suitable F-connector attenuator box, you can swap in 
a known-good TV to see if that fixes the sound, AND flipping a few dB of
attenuation into the RF can determine if you're near the noise floor with
the wiring and splitters.

Could just be a warped speaker cone; cooking steam and paper structure...

On 5/27/23 16:39, micky wrote:

[snip]

> If  you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in
> the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second
> amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running
> constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?

I find it useful to have a small TV I can move around to check things. 
That could quickly locate your problem.

-- 
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It is possible to pay another man's debts on his behalf, but it is not
possible to make a guilty man innocent by suffering in his place." [Carl
Lofmark, _What is the Bible?_]

On 27/05/2023 22:39, micky wrote:
> All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but
> now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the
> next one.
> 
> One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the
> sound is fine.
> 
> The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound.  Words are intelligible
> but sort of staticy or distorted.  Sometimes it's worse than others.
> Its signal is supplied through the same splitter/amp, another splitter,
> another splitter/amp, and a long cable,
> 
> If  you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in
> the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second
> amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running
> constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?

I find it hard to believe that a 20 year old TV will work at all on 
modern digital TV signals without a set top box interposed somewhere.

My money for distorted audio would be on the audio amplifier circuit in 
the set. Electrolytic capacitors seldom last more than a couple of 
decades without degrading to some extent.

Signal related problems on digital are generally of the all or nothing 
type due to the error correction and the image usually breaks up first. 
Audio tends to get short gaps in and/or ultrasonic clicks depending on 
the sophistication of the decoder (better ones mute bad blocks, crude 
ones generate intense high frequency pulses instead).

-- 
Martin Brown

On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:08:11 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 5/27/2023 7:33 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 17:39:40 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but
>>> now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the
>>> next one.
>>>
>>> One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the
>>> sound is fine.
>>>
>>> The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound.  Words are intelligible
>>> but sort of staticy or distorted.  Sometimes it's worse than others.
>>> Its signal is supplied through the same splitter/amp, another splitter,
>>> another splitter/amp, and a long cable,
>> 
>> Kitchen TV? Why?
>> 
>>>
>>> If  you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in
>>> the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second
>>> amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running
>>> constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?
>> 
>> Move it to another place and see.
>> 
>
>Why not?  Watch the news while eating breakfast for starters.  Have the 
>ball game on while cooking.  You can even buy a refrigerator with one 
>built in.
>
>https://www.reluctantgourmet.com/kitchen-flat-screen-tv/

I see fancy brochures for 40ish megabuck houses on the lake with a
giant flat-screen TV on the wall in every room.

If you're always watching TV, you can do that in any cheap dump.

On 5/27/2023 2:39 PM, micky wrote:
> All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but
> now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the
> next one.

You've not said WHICH city or given any other indications as to the
type of broadcasts.

> One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the
> sound is fine.
> 
> The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound.  Words are intelligible
> but sort of staticy or distorted.  Sometimes it's worse than others.
> Its signal is supplied through the same splitter/amp, another splitter,
> another splitter/amp, and a long cable,

"Staticy" suggests an analog broadcast.

> If  you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in
> the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second
> amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running
> constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?

I'd first check all the connections.  A loose F-connector can have
profound consequences.

On 5/27/2023 5:08 PM, Ed P wrote:
> Why not?  Watch the news while eating breakfast for starters.  Have the ball 
> game on while cooking.  You can even buy a refrigerator with one built in.

I think there is/was a microwave oven with similar "front panel".

With LCD and OLED displays being so cheap, expect to find them
on all sorts of "surfaces".  Maybe the bathroom mirror will be a
display with an out-facing camera... show folks how they will look
in various lighting conditions (e.g., applying makeup -- thie is what
you'll look like in the office lighting, later in the restaurant
or club, etc.)

With the *exception* of the bathrooms, we have one in every room
(though they are technically just "displays", relying on media
sourced from the home network for "content".

On 5/27/2023 7:33 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 27 May 2023 17:39:40 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but
>> now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the
>> next one.
>>
>> One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the
>> sound is fine.
>>
>> The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound.  Words are intelligible
>> but sort of staticy or distorted.  Sometimes it's worse than others.
>> Its signal is supplied through the same splitter/amp, another splitter,
>> another splitter/amp, and a long cable,
> 
> Kitchen TV? Why?
> 
>>
>> If  you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in
>> the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second
>> amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running
>> constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years?
> 
> Move it to another place and see.
> 

Why not?  Watch the news while eating breakfast for starters.  Have the 
ball game on while cooking.  You can even buy a refrigerator with one 
built in.

https://www.reluctantgourmet.com/kitchen-flat-screen-tv/

On Sat, 27 May 2023 17:39:40 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but
>now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the
>next one. 
>
>One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the
>sound is fine. 
>
>The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound.  Words are intelligible
>but sort of staticy or distorted.  Sometimes it's worse than others.
>Its signal is supplied through the same splitter/amp, another splitter,
>another splitter/amp, and a long cable,

Kitchen TV? Why?

>
>If  you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in
>the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second
>amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running
>constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years? 

Move it to another place and see.

On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 00:24:39 UTC+1, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 27/05/2023 22:39, micky wrote: 
> > All my tv's run off a central location, which used to include cable but 
> > now has a DVDR with an amplified antenna that brings in my city and the 
> > next one. 
> > 
> > One tv is supplied a signal through a splitter/amp and a cable, and the 
> > sound is fine. 
> > 
> > The kitchen tv has lately developed bad sound. Words are intelligible 
> > but sort of staticy or distorted. Sometimes it's worse than others. 
> > Its signal is supplied through the same splitter/amp, another splitter, 
> > another splitter/amp, and a long cable, 
> > 
> > If you were a betting man, where would the most likely problem be, in 
> > the kitchen TV (which is 20 or so years old), the cable, or that second 
> > amp, which has been sitting on the basement floor and running 
> > constantly, needing no attention, for 39 years? 
> >
> Hi Micky, 
> 
> The TV. Try moving it to the other location to check. 

maybe it's a massive crt set puttied into a big hole in the wall. There must be some reason he hasn't checked that already.

> If there were a problem with the cable or splitter amp, you would be 
> seeing picture and sound disturbances possibly also on other outlets.