Reply by The scientist May 5, 20232023-05-05
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On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:12:21&#8239;PM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 2023 04:54:31 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok. Who would stand by a charger for any length of time? > ><https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study> > How long does it take to die after your heart stops?
Reply by Fred Bloggs May 2, 20232023-05-02
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:54:36&#8239;AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok. Who would stand by a charger for any length of time? > <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study>
"The study, which included 130 patients using a pacemaker or defibrillator, considered electromagnetic interference over the course of 561 high power charges. The researchers noted that no adverse interactions were detected." Potential is not actuality. It's not a problem.
Reply by Fred Bloggs May 2, 20232023-05-02
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 10:12:21&#8239;AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 2 May 2023 04:54:31 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok. Who would stand by a charger for any length of time? > ><https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study> > How long does it take to die after your heart stops?
Ummm- when the heart stops, you are dead. What kind of question is that??? You really mean how long can go and stay revivable as something more than a vegetable. Red Cross always used 4-minutes. CPR will circulate oxygenated blood to the brain, and other parts, extending that time quite a bit. There may not be a limit. However if your heart stopped because of major blockage, I don't think CPR is going to unblock anything, so that part of you will be gone.
Reply by Anthony William Sloman May 2, 20232023-05-02
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 12:12:21&#8239;AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 2 May 2023 04:54:31 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok. Who would stand by a charger for any length of time? > ><https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study> > > How long does it take to die after your heart stops?
Depends on how long the bystanders keep up the external heart massage. Twenty off years ago I was playing field hockey in the Netherlands and one of my team fell over and didn't get up - a coronary. The medically trained members of the team started giving him external heart massage and blowing air into his lungs (kiss of life) pretty much immediately. It took twenty minutes for the ambulance to get there, and they took over, and took him to hospital where he died a few hours later. A friend of mine had the same problem in an academic procession in Sydney - he's a professor of oncology and the professor of anaesthetics broke a couple of his ribs with the heart massage. He made it - I had dinner at his place last Saturday. Without the heart massage you get irreversible brain damage in a couple of minutes, unless you've fallen into freezing water which can slow down the damage quite a bit. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by Anthony William Sloman May 2, 20232023-05-02
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 9:54:36&#8239;PM UTC+10, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok. Who would stand by a charger for any length of time? > > <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study>
Sounds more like incompetent design of the charging cable. You may have a lot of current flowing along the cable but it doesn't take much twist in the cable to keep the local magnetic field low - and it reverses as you move along the cable. which also helps . Using four wires and twisting all four would be a bit better. Using five with a centre ground would give you closer packing and a more stable bundle. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by John Larkin May 2, 20232023-05-02
On Tue, 2 May 2023 04:54:31 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

>It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok. Who would stand by a charger for any length of time? ><https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study>
How long does it take to die after your heart stops?
Reply by Dean Hoffman May 2, 20232023-05-02
It sounds like anyone with common sense would be ok.  Who would stand by a charger for any length of time?
<https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/ev-charging-electromagnetic-interference-cardiac-devices-study>